Dod Posted January 11, 2010 Report Posted January 11, 2010 hi im a new starter and need some advice please, once the ybs have grouped up as a team and are flying around home do you let them out for a hour in the morning and in the evening if so what time should i do this, and when do you take them training and how many times and how far do you take them and if i take them training should i still let them out flying around home?
grizzal Posted January 11, 2010 Report Posted January 11, 2010 pretty sure theres a good thread on this already, but not sure how to find it,someone will bring it to the top with abit of luck
Dod Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Posted January 11, 2010 ill have to get the dvds back out and study some more thanks anyway.
Guest bakes Posted January 11, 2010 Report Posted January 11, 2010 hi im a new starter and need some advice please, once the ybs have grouped up as a team and are flying around home do you let them out for a hour in the morning and in the evening if so what time should i do this, and when do you take them training and how many times and how far do you take them and if i take them training should i still let them out flying around home? what you wont to do mate let them have there normal exercise around home when they go out of view for an 1hr or more the next day let them out for the morning exercise when they trap back give them a light feed and in the afternoon but them in the basket and take them 5 miles up the road keep them at 5 miles to they are beating you home them go to 10 miles to there beating you home to you get to around 20 to 25 miles that nore than enough to train them all the best
Dod Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Posted January 11, 2010 what you wont to do mate let them have there normal exercise around home when they go out of view for an 1hr or more the next day let them out for the morning exercise when they trap back give them a light feed and in the afternoon but them in the basket and take them 5 miles up the road keep them at 5 miles to they are beating you home them go to 10 miles to there beating you home to you get to around 20 to 25 miles that nore than enough to train them all the best thanks Bakes
pjc Posted January 11, 2010 Report Posted January 11, 2010 hi im a new starter and need some advice please, once the ybs have grouped up as a team and are flying around home do you let them out for a hour in the morning and in the evening if so what time should i do this, and when do you take them training and how many times and how far do you take them and if i take them training should i still let them out flying around home? A couple of questions there! I let mine out morning and night, excercise early morn then light feed in then evening followed by main feed. When they are bunched up and excerciseing well then think about training. I prefer to let mine out for excercise before taking them on short training tosses, it takes the sting out of them and i've found it reduces losses, the birds also home quickly knowing its feed time. Phil
NW USA Posted January 11, 2010 Report Posted January 11, 2010 I'm fairly new, but my method was to start road training after the birds have been loft flying for 45 min. or more twice a day. I use sun up and 2 hrs prior to sunset for my loft flying. I like to loft fly them in the morning, call them in with a few grains of feed, then basket them for a toss of 5 mi. if they come home with no problems I take them 10 mi. the next day, 20 mi. two or three times, 30 mi. same, at this point no loft flying first. 50 mi. 3 times, and 70 mi. a couple of times. I generally toss in groups of 7-10 birds with a couple single tosses. I started with 25 youngsters and lost none prior to the first race.
Dod Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Posted January 11, 2010 Thanks for your replies it all helps.
holmsidelofts Posted January 11, 2010 Report Posted January 11, 2010 what you wont to do mate let them have there normal exercise around home when they go out of view for an 1hr or more the next day let them out for the morning exercise when they trap back give them a light feed and in the afternoon but them in the basket and take them 5 miles up the road keep them at 5 miles to they are beating you home them go to 10 miles to there beating you home to you get to around 20 to 25 miles that nore than enough to train them all the best Similar for me but i like to also do the following once i start training. every week i will basket them up as if i were racing, take them to a section that they do not know then leave there there over night before liberating the following day. what you have to remember is that youngsters normally go in the basket for maybe an hour or so whilst we take them training we do that loads of times then all of a sudden they are in the basket over night, away from the loft and they get stressed, like everything you can train them this. get them used to being away from the loft before racing starts, also when i part them i always place them in a big race basket get the feeders and drinkers on there and teach them to feed and drink in the basket. simple things really but very valuable in teaching birds the routine, like any other creature they can be trained easier when they are younger, remember you cant teach an old dog new tricks.
lanarkshire lad Posted January 11, 2010 Report Posted January 11, 2010 I'm fairly new, but my method was to start road training after the birds have been loft flying for 45 min. or more twice a day. I use sun up and 2 hrs prior to sunset for my loft flying. I like to loft fly them in the morning, call them in with a few grains of feed, then basket them for a toss of 5 mi. if they come home with no problems I take them 10 mi. the next day, 20 mi. two or three times, 30 mi. same, at this point no loft flying first. 50 mi. 3 times, and 70 mi. a couple of times. I generally toss in groups of 7-10 birds with a couple single tosses. I started with 25 youngsters and lost none prior to the first race.Where abouts are you? and do you have many members in the club?.
billt Posted January 11, 2010 Report Posted January 11, 2010 One of those questions we dislike answering, truth is we all have differant ideas, some people train y/b's regularly and some not at all, some train line of flight and me I don't, i think if y/b's are flying well at home don't be in a hurry to get them in the basket, I find this can stop them flying so well at home, line of flight is the most direct line from release to home but as far as I'm concerned that is natural to a race pigeon, they are homers
NW USA Posted January 11, 2010 Report Posted January 11, 2010 Where abouts are you? and do you have many members in the club?. Central Washington State, club has 10 members, combine of 30. The topography here is high desert with mountain ranges to navigate.
Guest bakes Posted January 11, 2010 Report Posted January 11, 2010 also forgot to say about basket training what i do is put two baskets in there section i put alittle corn in the training crate or basket let them come and go as they please so they get in there head that the basket isnt a bad thing i also forgot to say the first time they go into the basket a libberate them from on the lawn let them fly around call them in i do this twice then the 3rd time they are a few miles from the loft you will notice the first time you libberate them at a place they have never seen they will circle for a little while then get there bairing then be off wonce they found the line of flight the more times you libberate the birds from the same site the less they will circle wonce libberated and thats when you notice they will be beating you back home another thing i would say is make shore some one is at the loft for the arrival of the birds as soon as they arrive shake the tin and have there corn waiting in there food trough like you would if they was coming in from morning exercise all the best.
lanarkshire lad Posted January 11, 2010 Report Posted January 11, 2010 Central Washington State, club has 10 members, combine of 30. The topography here is high desert with mountain ranges to navigate.what breed of pigeons are you racing?
holmsidelofts Posted January 11, 2010 Report Posted January 11, 2010 Also another point to remember is this. get the youngsters in a routine of either being handled or have a method of catching them like a basket. stress plays a big part in youngsters health. think about it this way normally we dont start basket training them until around may june time. if they are christmas youngsters they are 5 - 6 months old. they are in a routine of going out everyday then being fed, then all of a sudden us fanciers decide its time to put them in the basket so we go in the loft and start chasing them around trying to catch them, the birds get scared and panic and get stressed. I think there is only 2 ways to basket birds. 1 is to have the ability to darken the loft right down so you can go in a pick them off the perch. or a method which you can herd them into a basket without having to catch them. this is all part of training and is often over look by many, scare them now and you will never have consistent success. jas
Bluedoo Posted January 12, 2010 Report Posted January 12, 2010 My basket training with youngsters begins the week they are weaned. Catch them and put them in the basket. Then every race day during the OB season they go in the basket. The longer the races the longer they are in there. And put a drinker on as well, if they are in for a while. If you do it from when they are squeakers they think nothing of it. Of course its a lot easier when you only have a few.
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