2 birds same thimble?

[ginge]

hi all

 

i take it theres a rule for tthis,which is not allowed,just out of interest can someone explain why its not allowed

 

only been racin a few year and didnt know lol oooops

[JADE]

not allowed in scotland dont know about rpra rules . i think reason was something to do with snowball or accumulator and dispute over which was first bird. money...the root of all evil lol

[pjc]

i thought the 2 in 1 thimble RPRA rule had been changed to allow it.

[greenlands]

i thought the 2 in 1 thimble RPRA rule had been changed to allow it.

Sorry mate NO,only one rubber in one thimble.

 

 

[ginge]

i dunno i was told that it wasnt allowed,so i thought ok then just read 1 of them off,then was told no none can be read off.....which really peeved me off,luckily there was a vote and i was allowed 1 of em

[greenlands]

i dunno i was told that it wasnt allowed,so i thought ok then just read 1 of them off,then was told no none can be read off.....which really peeved me off,luckily there was a vote and i was allowed 1 of em

 

You were very lucky ,if they had stuck to the rules both would have been thrown out.

 

[ginge]

i dunno i was told that it wasnt allowed,so i thought ok then just read 1 of them off,then was told no none can be read off.....which really pissed me off,luckily there was a vote and i was allowed 1 of em

[ginge]

yep well i wont be doin it again,lol........ pigeon men are pretty funny tho wen it comes to things like this....politics eh hehe

[Guest]

Taken from 2009 RPRA Rule Book

 

206. (a) All clocks MUST be set by the

Official Clock Setter(s) or whomsoever they

may appoint, at least one of whom MUST

sign his/her name on the dials and rolls before

being used on the clocks they set, together

with the name of the race point, date, clock

number (unless printed when struck), the

name of the competitor and the name of the

Organisation. The clock record sheet or

envelope MUST bear clock number, time of

setting, the receptacle showing on the clock,

race date and the competitor’s name and be

secured as laid down in R.P.R.A. Rule 188. At

the checking of clocks the officials appointed

MUST fill in MASTER TIME, clock times

and variations of the clock record sheets or

envelopes.

ONE CONTAINER ONLY SHALL BE

TAKEN AT A TIME FROM THE CLOCK

AND CHECKED.

One rubber only to be inserted into each

container.

When a member times more than one rubber

into one thimble, that thimble is disqualified

excepting when two race rubbers come off the

same pigeon

( All clocks set for competition must be set

to receive a container in the first receptacle

available for that particular make of clock.

© Where a clock has to be re-set under the

provisions of Rule 203, a single signature will

suffice.

[JADE]

yep well i wont be doin it again,lol........ pigeon men are pretty funny tho wen it comes to things like this....politics eh hehe

 

never lol

[Guest vining45]

so on ets if birds on same second or land together is it not the same as two timed together wheres the differance you still have two birds with same velocity

[JADE]

ets can tell which recorded first to a fraction of a second.....look at the one loft race times in the bhw

[Novice]

I think the rule was made to stop potential cheting.

Pooler rrives home late.

Take the rubber off and place in your pocket.

After the clocks have been checked and thimbles returned to you tell the clock setter that there were 2 birds in your first thimble.

Produce the thimble from your pocket containing the rubber from the pooler.

 

That is what I was told when the rule was introduced. Could be codswallop.

[ginge]

well at least this thread will be read by novices such as me and learn by it

[ginge]

well at least this thread will be read by novices such as me and learn by it

[pjc]

i agree Rose, especialy about only having 1 clock! You can have an ets pad on every trap but only 1 clock which is always in the wrong loft when the first bird comes!

[PIGEON_MAN]

ets can tell which recorded first to a fraction of a second.....look at the one loft race times in the bhw

 

Only the one loft clocking system gives you fractions of a second though,the printoffs we get only shows hour,min,sec,so if 2 birds have the same time you will have 2 birds with the same velocity.