PIGEON_MAN Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 JUST WONDERING WHAT OTHERS THOUGHT WAS THE BEST TIME TO INTRODUCE YOUNG COCKS THAT HAVE BEEN ON DARKNESS INTO THE WIDOWHOOD LOFT,I HAVE TRIED BOTH WAYS I.E.PUTTING THEM STRAIGHT INTO THE WIDOWHOOD LOFT AS SOON AS RACING IS OVER,ALSO LEAVING THEM TO MOULT OUT AND PUTTING THEM IN THE LOFT AFTER THE MOULTS FINISHED.WHAT ARE OTHER MEMBERS THOUGHT,S ON THIS,PERSONALLY I HAVN,T NOTICED MUCH DIFFERANCE,OBVIOUSLEY THEY SETTLE DOWN BETTER TO THEIR NEW SECTION THE SOONER YOU GET THEM IN THERE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WINGS 04 Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 I JUST PUT THEM IN BUT I FEED IN THE BOX SO THEY HAVE TO GET ONE OR GO HUNGRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribble Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 don't think it makes much difference,the one thing i find that does help is moving the old birds and shutting there boxes.then when young cocks have claimed a box i return the old cocks a couple at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE LOFTS Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 i lock them all up then let 2-3 out at a time until there used to flying up and down there box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lycett Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Our young cocks are in there already. Leave em in there with the old cocks & let em sort it out. 48 hrs and they don't blink an eyelid at each other. Has no effect on the YB moult either. Anyone tries to tell you it does it talking rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 This is a very good post, and some good answrers, lots of myths about this subject. Dont move them till they moulted dont move lofts till the moulted i've never found a problem with it. Tip: To kick start the moult in the pigeons, take the water away for 24hours then put it back again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Same as mike here,we have a few young cocks already in one of our widowhood section so in my case its re-introducing the old cocks into there old section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 I believe it is a lot simple, and cock birds not so ardent if you put the Cock to The hen in HER nest! Especially of course when mating to new mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 i think theres a similar posting on another thread , would agree that [as long as theres plenty room] simply put the young cocks in,the widowhood loft, and theyll sort themselves out in no time atall, and the sooner the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanz Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Don't think it really matters, its up to the individual as whichever way you do it as long as the birds are settled in the loft come racing time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Beanz, Sory to disagree with you, but I'd rather the hen not get beat up or 'Sorted' at all if possible. The agression is a lot less when a Cock bird is introduced to the Hens and HER nest... Likewise Ferrets, alot more peacefull night lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANCYVIEWLOFTS Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 we take the old cocks out and close their boxes then we put the young cocks in to claim their boxes once fully protective of their boxes we put the old cocks back in one or two at a time over a period of one week then we take them all out and start to introduce the hens that they will be paired to next season into the loft and get them used to their boxes we find that when we come to pairing up time all the pairs know their boxes because no matter what box a cock has it will follow the hen into every box and mayhem is the orderof the day its just our way as we dont keep many birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanz Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Roland if you put a block of wood about the size of a pallet block or half a house brick the hen can get out of the way and so doesn't get beaten up as you put it. she is higher up than the cock and can hold him at bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Have them all year round as they like perching on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Our young cocks are in there already. Leave em in there with the old cocks & let em sort it out. 48 hrs and they don't blink an eyelid at each other. Has no effect on the YB moult either. Anyone tries to tell you it does it talking rubbish. MIKE, AGREE 100%. IVE USED THIS METHOD FOR 11 YEARS NOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest slugmonkey Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 I am going to fly a widowhood system and am going to use the loft I have now for a widowhood loft I am going to put in boxes to replace the perches I am just assuming I will be able to let these young cocks claim boxes at will how many cocks would you recommend that I start with I have about 30 birds in this loft they are very undercrowded at this number I think I could go down to 20 and be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 20 widowhood cocks should be fine im racing touch wood 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest slugmonkey Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 I am going to have another 60 on natural in another loft I read about a widowhood system a few years ago that sounded too crazy to be true so I have to give it a go I wont even talk about it it sounds so far fetched that I am sure that I will be made fun of, I can hide these birds in the others I am flying and if it works then I will divulge how it works !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 well be nice to know a system share it slug!how big are your lofts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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