Ricorico Posted February 21, 2009 Report Posted February 21, 2009 here inRomani my fed is the most powerfull long distance federation from country, ussuly winners for +500 miles are combination of old line with Emiel Denis, Andre Vanbrueene,Kipp en Zohnen and Jan Ardean. Pigeon from Freiedelhophen are very good in the last two years.
Roland Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 Would personally go 'Outside' of my area, and contact a person that could put me wise as to just who does fly a good bird at the distance regularly! Would preferably buy in some Latebreds. Would do if possible, two or three different locations. Keep them seperate for starters... then after Mr Basket has sorted, mix the yougsters up over a period of time, being sure never to mate any close to each other. Other than that, I'd would mate Kind to Kind. Size to size etc. Don't believe in Eye Sign except for Viril and health matters, but would where possible mate opposite eye colours.
Guest youngzimmy Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 ASK DKJ HE HAS GOT MOST OF THEM
Taylorsloft Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 i aways found the ones that came home from 600 miles the best
speedbird Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 you can have the best distance bird in the world but you have to have the system to race em
Roland Posted February 26, 2009 Report Posted February 26, 2009 Isn't the System that makes them a Distance / sprint etc. Of course it is.
Guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Posted February 27, 2009 Its that "+" thats makes a big difference. Most if not all families of birds will have birds that will fly upto and maybe just over 500 miles well, including some well known sprint families. The big difference is when 500+ becomes 600 or more thats when you need that extra special bird, to win it or do well that is. This is where you want the families that been doing these distances for generation after generation. \\\birds that don't just fly and do well once but birds that fly this distance evry year and do consistatntly well.
hotrod Posted February 27, 2009 Report Posted February 27, 2009 Its that "+" thats makes a big difference. Most if not all families of birds will have birds that will fly upto and maybe just over 500 miles well, including some well known sprint families. The big difference is when 500+ becomes 600 or more thats when you need that extra special bird, to win it or do well that is. This is where you want the families that been doing these distances for generation after generation. \\\birds that don't just fly and do well once but birds that fly this distance evry year and do consistatntly well. i agree with some of your post, but there is a difference .some of these sprint birds could fly 500 miles ,jmo only in a blow home , thats there limit ,im still waiting to here of an outstanding performance with these sprinters at 500 miles plus in a steady to hard day, give me a good long distance family any day of the week and you all can keep these (sprinters) there's no room in my loft.
Guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Posted February 27, 2009 i agree with some of your post, but there is a difference .some of these sprint birds could fly 500 miles ,jmo only in a blow home , thats there limit ,im still waiting to here of an outstanding performance with these sprinters at 500 miles plus in a steady to hard day, give me a good long distance family any day of the week and you all can keep these (sprinters) there's no room in my loft. Hot rod, its a low percentage but they will fly it, as i was into sprint once and any that never made the grade (the plodders) would go to the 500 milers, not just chucked in but well prepared and i'd say 50% of the time they would come thru. I've had birds from the same nest (which were out and out sprint Van Reets)one alway did well inland and the other did'nt want to know unless it was 9 or 10 hours on the wing. This line of birds never been past before i had them from a very well known fancier.
Roland Posted February 27, 2009 Report Posted February 27, 2009 Never had - And most of my former birds were freebies and cast off - that haven't flown Lerwicke 540 miles. Always been natural, and yes have had losses at ALL distances - like most - even from training chucks. So if a nest mate gets lost at 45 miler in training chuck, does that mean that THESE birds aren't capable of 500 miles? I think not, even birds with generations of so - called distance blood in them produce birds that also cant do 125 miles etc.
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