If you were to start from scratch again..

[doo]

knowing what you know now how would you go about it..........would you race yb's?...or train the *expletive removed* off them & try & compete with yearlings?.....ect

[Taylorsloft]

all the good distance birds i ever had were all raced hard from day one.in 1993 i had 3 birds fly 2800 miles .one bird flew sartilly twice. 81st open sartilly smash only 167 birds in race time

[Taylorsloft]

wish i still had those birds l o l

[carlsberg]

all mine are raced hard from day one it sorts the good from the rest

[THE FIFER]

it was always the done thing for new starts to race young birds, but now with so many losses new starters could be disapointed if they lost a lot of young birds which would leive them with little to race asold birds, i would race some and train some out for racing as yearlings,

[schyphos]

 

Started two seasons ago with partners pigeons,mostly broken birds given to him by friends.These were rubbish.Raced the y.b's from them,put in lots of effort won 4 from 10 races and topped Fed from last race.But did put in a lot of effort.

Bought all new stock for 2007 raced their babies won 8 from 10 races and 3x1st Fed & 30 top 10 Fed cards.We put in much less effort with these birds but they were of much superior quality.Started with 54 y.b's ended with 46.Sent them all to every race.

I believe if you have good birds it makes racing much easier.Also feel its a very valuable education for them racing them hard as y.b's.

[Roland]

I would buy late breds off louella first off, then see who could offer me what on sites such as this.

Would keep Louella's seperate for first season or so, and not what threw what.

2 sewasons down new intro or a complete overall. But would 2nd season swap partners - if not scond rounds etc. first season. All y/b birds allowed to pick their own mates as long as they aren't related.

[MsPigeon]

As many of you, I would still jump in with both feet and race the YB's hard. But if I were starting fresh I would sure make use of one of the pigeon programs for the computer. It is just too mind bogleing to think of trying to put all the info in now, I've tryed and never get it all in and then another years gone by.

Carol

[jimmy white]

knowing what you know now how would you go about it..........would you race yb's?...or train the *expletive removed* off them & try & compete with yearlings?.....ect

 

i would race a decent quality yb team , keep training them short distances , single up double up , different directions [ i wouldnt bother about the first two or three races ,, the libs are too unsettled , then split them in to two teams ,, then watch the weather [no race in east wind] then try and get them week about up to 150 miles ,,as yearlings i would race them [providing their completely fit,,,and not done [not in early april etc ],,up to 300 miles  their not mature birds untill their 2 y o, so patience would be my game and when 2 y o   the skies the limit  

[Michael J Burden]

They got to have some racing, the stress of a mass liberation will sort them out more than a private toss from most reasonable distances.

[jimmy white]

They got to have some racing, the stress of a mass liberation will sort them out more than a private toss from most reasonable distances.

 

with due respect mike,," the stress of mass liberation will sort them out,",,,,, you can loose the best ,, their only babies ,,in my opinion patience is the game

[ribble]

They got to have some racing, the stress of a mass liberation will sort them out more than a private toss from most reasonable distances.

 

I know where you are coming from. It would be of no use going to softly with them, to then loose them as yearlings and be back to square one!

 

 

[madmaxlofts]

as a widdowhood man i would race the cocks for the first 3 races and the comebacks then i would race the hens right through the system

making sure i had anough cocks to compete the following yr

[Guest chrisss]

some of you guys who have read my "begging post" will know that i am in effect starting a new,

my plan will be to breed a young bird team try to race to my [and the birds] best ablities

i expect with all of the loses by guys racing a lot longer than me to have a old bird team in about 3 seasons maybe a sign of the times[huge losses maybe not all bad birds?]

[carlsberg]

my birds are raced hard but if i was just starting then i would probably just race them up to about 120 mls then stop half of them and send the rest to 2 more races then stop completley that way i know they had some work but there are still pigeon's left at the end of the season that have earned there place for another season

[Guest chrisss]

now that sounds like a plan cheers mate :D :D :D

[Guest slugmonkey]

I think yearlings and 1 year olds are some of your best racers ! the 3 - 5 year olds have there place but I think YOUNG birds that are raced hard and trained good then raced as yearlings are WAY overlooked by most we race young to 400

I also agree that if you start out racing them as young and press them as yearlings it certainly weeds out the trash! it will tell you which breeders are doing the job in a hurry

I think a lot of guys dont understand that your team is how you build it if you retire 3 -4 year olds to breeding lofts after great performances as 1 -3 year olds then so be it if you want to coddle birds along until they are 2 then start racing them harder getting the best performances as 3 - 6 year olds more power to you I personally belive younger pigeons breed better birds, Vitality is king !

A guy that races older birds would have to wait till a bird is 4 to be certain that a bird is viable as a racer wheras a guy that presses yearlings would breed them as 2 year olds and have the same certainty of performance

I race ALL my yearlings to the 600 mile station the ones that return are then put into a breeding program, this might sound rough but the 1st time I did it I lost about 60% the 2nd about 40%, the 3rd about 30% then we had the toughest 600 in club history and I got 24 of 26 back  1 of the ones that didnt return was an auction bird and the other I don't know what happened he was a good bird and should have made it , we had a long time flier that lost 26 of 26 he is also a national distance record holder !!!

be fair and use common sense but expect more and breed to your expectations !

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

Hi many years since thought about this have been away from sport some 15 years. use to write in the B H W under whats it called Cumbernauld.Just finding my way round this great site

 

To many lossed byoung birds to race them all though would have no option in first few seasons