Guest chrisss Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Was called 'Street Races' also I think you will find. Only knew of one such like race... and that was a contrived affair. It was put arranged so my Dad could actually have a winner I believe .... well it was his only winner, and others were timing in an hour later. Dad took 1st and 2nd as I recall, and went to his departure happy that'd he'd won a race. Was a good club man etc. like a lot of the no hopers were.... indeed what sucessful clubs thrived on. First there, last away, dreams and whims of prayers, nothing too much trouble and still found a place of belonging in the club. Family do's and a social meetingS. Just enjoyed the banter and love of thier pigeons. Sorry for distracting, just throws up the 'Good ole days' eh lol. and thats the trouble nowdays in the "race" to get that collection of money spinning first prizes we all forget the stalwarts of every club the old boy who has had pigeons for years,sometimes get a place from a race over the water,who is always there first every friday/saturday .always last to leave,who keeps a few birds for fun,whose granson might turn up on a saturday to watch, the guys who without all clubs would die
greenhills Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 http://stephenbodio.blogspot.com/2006/08/guest-post-jacob-sewall-on-fast.html
Guest Vic Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Yes, the "shorts" where all the go in Liverpool but died a death when, most of the "townies" houses where demolished, to make way for the high rise flats from the fifties onwards. Some of the characters who raced them, had their lofts built on the house roof, not far from the chimney in some cases, which was used as a handy urinal when nature called. I was born in Buckingham st, which ran into Great Homer st, and the incline of the street was like a ski slope But this along with Havelock st. was one of the hot beds. Plenty of the lads in Liverpool now, were connected with the shorts, some of them were actually "tramps". Tramp being the word used for the young ones, who tramped the mile distance many times during the course of racing. When these guys get together, the tales from past short fanciers events, is an experience to treasure. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Blue Chequer Pied Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Was called 'Street Races' also I think you will find. Only knew of one such like race... and that was a contrived affair. It was put arranged so my Dad could actually have a winner I believe .... well it was his only winner, and others were timing in an hour later. Dad took 1st and 2nd as I recall, and went to his departure happy that'd he'd won a race. Was a good club man etc. like a lot of the no hopers were.... indeed what sucessful clubs thrived on. First there, last away, dreams and whims of prayers, nothing too much trouble and still found a place of belonging in the club. Family do's and a social meetingS. Just enjoyed the banter and love of thier pigeons. Sorry for distracting, just throws up the 'Good ole days' eh lol. No need to apologise these are the foundations that form our great sport. I could listen to all the old stories and never grow tired of hearing them. Credit to the pioneers of every aspect of pigeon racing, as I say I could listen all day. Just wish my Dad or Grandad had been interested . Paul.
les Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 just curious if any fanciers remember the old ,",milers" these were racing pigeons, ,, but only raced one mile, i remember as a boy [just a short time ago ;D] i was in dovescote park in liverpool. fishing in dovesote pond with the old grandad,for minnows, tadpoles,etc,,seeing a man with a pigeon basket on the back of his bike,, when approaching him and talking to him, he explained these were " milers" timed with a stop watch,, there seemed to be big betting on these,, but the thing that struck me, was , he lifted a single pigeon, released it,, the bird flew in a straight line about 6ft high , skipping the chimney tops, going like the bars of hell,, no circling ,,just off , like lightning,, now if we could just get birds to do this, on the last mile of a race ;D ;D ;D would save valuable seconds ,, anyone know of these, or remember these jimmy i got a video called pigeons in paradise [by eric haws and jimmy morris ] about a similar thing it is fasinating ,its got a phone number and e mail address ,dont know if they still do this vid but you can try this number and address 01613360129 email [eric@ehawes.freeserve.co.uk] if you cant get it let me know and i will get it copyed on to dvd and send you a copy .you have never seen any thing like it in your life .ATB les.
Blue Chequer Pied Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 jimmy i got a video called pigeons in paradise [by eric haws and jimmy morris ] about a similar thing it is fasinating ,its got a phone number and e mail address ,dont know if they still do this vid but you can try this number and address 01613360129 email [eric@ehawes.freeserve.co.uk] if you cant get it let me know and i will get it copyed on to dvd and send you a copy .you have never seen any thing like it in your life .ATB les. I would be interested in a copy too mate. Regards, Paul.
jimmy_bulger Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 as VIC said the shorts were the boss sprinters of theire time and also theire owners raced them on what the old belgiums called the widowhood system ( what the belgiums thought they invented ) and there is still a few lofts around that still cultivate these birds.
Guest Vic Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 A lot of these short flyers, moved to the outlying districts of Liverpool, and helped swell the ranks of the long Distance clubs. Many clubs at the time had 40- 50 members, some more, in fact the West Derby had over 100 members at one time. Just after the war, my brother and I, asked the old man, Could we keep pigeons? No! they are unlucky, was his reply. I believe that the unlucky tag, stemmed from the years of some short distance men, who would gamble their wages on every Sunday race, causing friction in many households. Luckilly our dad was a seaman, and when he returned from his next long trip, we had them up to Speke on the 81 bus. He realised how much we loved our pigeons, and allowed us to continue with them. My brother is 2 years older than me and lives in OZ, I was talking to him last night actually. Yes! I have many happy memories with pigeons over the years, which I treasaure, because they have given Vic so much pleasure. :'( :'( ;D
Roland Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 When a man dies, the wife left behind is a 'Widow'. When a Woman dies first the man is called a 'Widower'! The system then is called 'Widowerhood' as it was mainly for the Cock birds being sent. Now the correct term of 'Widowhood' is when one is racing 'Hens'. This came about saying widowhood through sheer laziness in both speaking and writing.
Guest TIMBARRA LOFTS Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 When a man dies, the wife left behind is a 'Widow'. When a Woman dies first the man is called a 'Widower'! The system then is called 'Widowerhood' as it was mainly for the Cock birds being sent. Now the correct term of 'Widowhood' is when one is racing 'Hens'. This came about saying widowhood through sheer laziness in both speaking and writing. Roland whatever your drinking I'll have 2 pints of that mate.
pjc Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 When a man dies, the wife left behind is a 'Widow'. When a Woman dies first the man is called a 'Widower'! The system then is called 'Widowerhood' as it was mainly for the Cock birds being sent. Now the correct term of 'Widowhood' is when one is racing 'Hens'. This came about saying widowhood through sheer laziness in both speaking and writing. correct
NW USA Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Technical question, to add a pic to this do you just click image then enter the JPG. number?
Roland Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 There is a section at the Home page that runs you through how to upload a picture on here matey. Never done, but obviously many do. Hope this helps
Guest Taylors Choice Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 It has to be inbetween the two bits of code
REDCHEQHEN Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Technical question, to add a pic to this do you just click image then enter the JPG. number? Click 'More post options' - then 'BROWSE' and look for the file on your computer - then click on it and 'add'
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