What to do with Latebreds

[swilcox]

What do we do with latebreds?????

 

I have about 15 that have been trained and my plan was to send them to the first 4 inland races and then take stock and plan from there but it seems so many get lost on these first few races when its cold etc.

 

Problem is after 4 races we are over the water most weeks? Has anybody found a may that works for latebreds??? I want to test and educate them but i would also  like to be fair, as some of them have matured into fairly nice birds!!!

 

Stuart

 

 

[Guest IB]

If you are talking about yearling latebreds, advice from the likes of Jimmy White and Rose is to train them only, when the weather warms up, and race them as 2-yo.

 

Had 5 last year, raced 3 and dropped them, trained other 2 as above, with OBs then YBs, and gave them 3 YB races as trainers out to 80 miles. They are for 565 miles this year.

[DUBLINFLYER]

good advice if it woz me i'd keep training them..... with the old an young birds then race the expletive removed* out of them as old birds at least ye gave them every chance, they need all the education the can get, an they will preform next year

[Guest Hjaltland]

My small experience with LB's is to train well only in the yearling year then race out as two yearolds. Has worked for me.

 

Frustrating having to hang on to them unraced for that length of time though... patience patience.

 

[swilcox]

thanks for the advice!

 

stuart

[Guest IB]

My small experience with LB's is to train well only in the yearling year then race out as two yearolds. Has worked for me.

 

Frustrating having to hang on to them unraced for that length of time though... patience patience.

 

I've another 6 Yearling latebreds this year that I intend doing the same - train only.

 

They do have another job though, most of them are  safe mates for natural racing cocks / hens. There's less risk of them going down while the mate is racing.  And there's no danger of being completely cleaned-out at the end of each year like I was in the early years - there's new fully trained birds coming into the raceteam every year.

[geronimo]

i would pick and choose their races carefully. have them trained with your others, so that if a good weekend's weather is predicted then a couple of decent races will educate them well. If you can't get them in the first few races there will be a few dropbacks later in the season. Just a thought.

[Delboy]

trained lightly as yearlings, raced to 250 miles as 2year olds and then as far as you want , 3 years onwards. Patience is the key here but most of us ( me included ) havent got enough patience.

[swilcox]

Thats true delboy!!!!!

[Merlin]

Again this one has to be down to individual,regarding lots of things,especially room in lofts,if I have got both l/b and room,they are a two year job,trained with old birds again with youngsters,maybe just maybe sent to one or two short races,but in the main they are as yet undeveloped,both mentally and physically,and if they are worth breeding,they should have the time to become the complete package,again only my opinion

[RoryTheRed]

I train them on fine days only. I will send them to the four inland races with my fed, starting at the end of May. Any not up with the pace or always late will go to Tours with the BICC to qualify for nx yr.

 

Awkward for you Stuart with your loft location; maybe you can get a fellow fancier living in Sussex or Kent to meet you halfway with their birds so you both can get a decent chuck from one anothers lofts.

[Roland]

Had a late bred - like many - Born September, won the scottish averages on it's own ... was also with daughters only day birds 2 years ago - only 9 in Fed I believe.

But mostly I feel lae breds are great for two reasons... a reasonable way of buying in a 'Stock Loft' and racesd  superb 18 months later if lightly treated. I may just give the odd toss year born, but most leave them to their own with a open loft. Then next season just a couple of races 150 milers. Them set their stool out the year after.

[billy wilson]

i had a red cock latebred never trained in 06 went from the first race last year never missing a race till it got to folkestone then stopped.it is bred for the channel so it will have to keep going this year.i put on a thread onsaturday calling my mate for putting late breds on to bubwith 80miles in those conditions cold north wind,we only got them september last year,well one turned in sunday morning,another turned in this morning,and one reported at hull.he rang this morning and said he would se what it was like tomorrow,but when my mate rang this afternoon he said he chucked it out at 2 oclock.you would think he could have kept it in for a few days,some people have no patience probably get reported by someone else.ile keep you posted.

 

                                                                                       billy

[Michael J Burden]

My yearling late breds are yet to see the inside of a basket. Them off they will go inland then 400 miles NFC 560 miles MNFC and some may go 670 miles NFC all this year.

Just expect losses.

About 30 to go this year.

PS they are long distance late breds.

[Guest karl adams]

what is it that latebreds  lac as they seem to get lost  and yet a young bird is raced with success

[chucka]

not educated from young

[thunderboult]

on the whole i find it's not worth the time bothering with latebreds but i do have 1 good here that was not trained as a yb but flown around the loft as a yearling he had 6 races upto 160 mls(normally last 1 home but was 6th club last race of the season) as a 2 year old he flew really well flying all welsh south east nationals(6) and taking 4th,6th,8th+11th section from maidstone,ramsgate,oudenaarde+brussels.i've got a few this year but i've dropped a couple already and they've only been 20 mls.

[blackjack]

Stuart i race late breds reasonably i would let them rear a youngster around now then let them go to nest late april /may and start training on good days then let them go again and put them in a race or 2 in late june or early july come back races . Then treat as a yearling the following year it has paid dividends for myself.

[Michael J Burden]

not educated from young

 

if you are going to loose them you will, it does not matter if they are yearlings or 2 year old. The duffers will get lost no matter how long you modycoddle them. Just get them in the basket and loose the duffers. It is what I do. ?how many ybs are lost for everyone that makes  the team as yearlings? I would guess the percentage of good birds is lowish in either yb or latebred.

This is my experience take it or leave.

[billy wilson]

the young late bred that i was on about yesterday,the guy rang my mate today to say it had returned to his place,he then said ive got someone coming down in a couple of days to get some chickens his name is kevin locker from loftus,you would not believe it thats the lad we bought them off last september,how many times would you get that happening,its a small world.

 

                                             billy

  ps i forgot to say that it was the one that was reported in hull.

[timbarra]

Latebreds should not be raced or bred from until 2 years old.

 

spencer

[joe61]

ask RAYMONDO

[swilcox]

Everyone loves Raymond!!!!!