bluepiedcock Posted April 17, 2008 Report Posted April 17, 2008 Im going to race in the SNRPC and the SNFC in a couple of years when I get a team. One isnt better than the other- yes the SNFC is bigger but the SNRPC is growing and more and more people are joining. Theres a lot of good flyers in both so lets not call one a fraudster etc Why doesnt everyone just fly their pigeons- all this arguing is killing the sport. If people promoted the sport locally with as much passion as they have in arguing like kids then the sport would have a chance of thriving I live in an area where guys who were friends for years no longer talk to each other cos they are SHU or RPRA Ive joined both and two local clubs so on a saturday Ill have 2 races and when the time arrives the choice of a full program of both sets of nationals Double the chance of winning and competing- chance to set birds up for couble the amount of races- makes a lot of sense to me I grew up in a family surrounded by pigeonmen, there was a lot of comradary between them locally and the quality of Doomen seems to have went right downhill Not just in the skills ijn flying pigeons but the friendship aspect- all ive heard is people sniping and on these forums theres loads of "Expert Doomen" who ram their opinions down other throats If someone has an opinion then let him have his opinion- why slate him and have a go at his credability - it not about who is the best but doing your best and enjoying the sport Thers names on here such as Gareth Rankin, Jimmy White and Derek Hay - all of good character and dont force thier will on you These are all good Doomen and I know that in Derek and Gareths case Bred from good doomen ( Sorry Jimmy dont know you family history) Im just happy to come on the forums, talk pigeons and not get involved in the crap that some folk want to argue about Ive said my bit- Good luck to all in 08 Where and whatever you fly and what method you use
carlsberg Posted April 17, 2008 Report Posted April 17, 2008 does it really matter which one you fly in as long as you get to send your birds against the best which is what national racing is all about
rembrant2coo Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 does it really matter which one you fly in as long as you get to send your birds against the best which is what national racing is all about CARL YOUR CORRECT THESE GUYS DON,T REALIZE THEY ARE UP AGAINST THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY , AND AS NATIONALS GO THERE GETTING SMALLER BIRDAGE ALL THE TIME DUE (IN MY OPINION TO HAVING TO MANY INLAND NATIONALS )THERE BIRDS ARE NOT THEN READY FOR THE DISTANCE , YOU DON,T JUST PICK THEM OUT THE SHED AND SEND , LIKE THE 300MILES +RACES
bluepiedcock Posted April 18, 2008 Author Report Posted April 18, 2008 but both the SNRPC & SNFC cover Scotland so they are both Nationals some guys have to race North Road and both Ireland and Wales have outstanding National men/women
frank-123 Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 glad you can see the bigger picture of how petty some scottish pigeon men can be blue pied cock but i reckon you should only join one club unless you have lots of birds to race 500 miles just far to many races if you are joining both but who am i to tell you what to do
DOVEScot Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 Since me and Billy have decided to form a partnership, his health permitting, we have talked about what body to join. Having looked at the website of the RPA some time ago, I noticed they were an association representing England, I am glad to see they have now change it. But it does reflect what is common in many British sports. If the RPA are our National governing body representing all of the UK and they have a SNRPA then surely they should have a ENRPA, WPRPA and a WNRPA It also depends whether you consider Scotland to be a nation in it's own right, if so then racing against other nationals like Wales Ireland or England would be an internation race. Since having to deal with Billy you realise there is a lot more to life than all the above, Billy would just happy be at the moment seeing his birds tossed or being trapped, but even now with all the tubes in him he still argues the case for the SHU, sad but true some people will never change till their day comes :'(
DOVEScot Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 Your be suggesting next dovescot that they all sit down together round a table and work out what is good for the sport ;D ;D ;D It will never happen in any sport that involves individuals participating, only happens in team sports even then it is a nightmare :'( Everyone fights their own wee corner and fight they do 8)
DOVEScot Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 Way things are going some are going to have to find another interest to fight over wont be lot to fight over soon If we're no fighting over our caves we are fighting over our own wee corner of the cave, it will never change untill we are all cloned and programmed to think the same. God forbid I hope I am no here when it happens, sh#t it's already started
Guest slugmonkey Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 Our club split we lost all the also rans, the guys that always had an excuse why they couldnt win and now they race each other and guess what, now they are having problems too !!! Our club has already issued rule changes for the ones wishing to return and several will not be allowed to return is this good for the sport ?? I, like you guys am tired of the fighting and arguing our club is more competitive and peaceful since these guys left and I don't really care to have any of them return !!!
mark Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 hello, in my humble opinion pigeon racing is a dying sport. over inflated pigeon prices corn prices going through the roof. and the death nail ETS.i have nothing against the ETS i can see with multipal timmings which pushes the lesser club member futher down the ladder, in time they will give up.
Guest slugmonkey Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 you have 2 types of competitors in ANY sport ones that will never be good and ones that will never be anything BUT good !!!
LISTER Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 If we're no fighting over our caves we are fighting over our own wee corner of the cave, it will never change untill we are all cloned and programmed to think the same. God forbid I hope I am no here when it happens, sh#t it's already started are they lots of wee tammies ??
Lennut Tar Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 you have 2 types of competitors in ANY sport ones that will never be good and ones that will never be anything BUT good !!! What you say may be true here !!!!!!!!!. Unfortunately in my view, most in this sport belong in the first category (Myself included) ??????, & unless you somehow accommadate these type of flyers/members etc, the sport will continue down the road to nowhere I'm afraid, the way I see things. Enjoy.
Novice Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 Hi I am a committee member of the SNRPC. I have no axe to grind and it would be beneficial for the sport if we could turn back the clock. Attitudes have moderated slightly since the split and indeed some guys are members of both Nationals but there are still some people who were involved in the split and I cannot see them changing their stance. The SNFC did test the water this year by proposing that SNRPC members joined them in the race from Belgium but it was felt that the time was not right to do so and also there were complications as the members who were unjustly "suspended" by the SHU could not compete.
doo Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 but both the SNRPC & SNFC cover Scotland so they are both Nationals The Horse racing Scottish Grand National is being run tomorrow in Ayr, now what if Hamilton race course decided to have another Scottish Grand National over the same fences & distance would this have the right to be called the National or for that matter would the Ayr event still be able to call it's self the National. The way I see it when it was just the SNFC all the Best fanciers flew in it along with some run of the mill fanciers (myself included). Now we have two National codes where some of the best fanciers fly in one & some in the other & some in both, now surely the original format was the best as all the best fanciers flew in it .....but now we have two National codes which are weakened by each others existance because the best fanciers are now spread over two different codes, so how can anyone say the have a National winning bird in their National winning loft if they are only flying against half the National fanciers ....surely to win a National means you beat every one in Scotland that entered birds in the National races but this cannot happen if some fly the National in one & some in the other.....my opinion
Novice Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 Stevie---you are absolutely correct in what you say. National means just that. Unfortunately we no longer have that but that is pigeon racing. There are many other instances of what you are talking about south of the border for example MNFC. I know one guy who is on the committee of both SNFC and SNRPC and he is working to reverse the split. It is unlikely to happen. Any good ideas you have to assist would be welcome. My own belief is that the only way the SNRPC can survive long term is to become affiliated to the NFC and arrange a race programme to tie in with theirs. That would be a tragedy for the sport in Scotland. This is my opinion based on the knowledge I have.
rembrant2coo Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 STEVIE THE SCOTTISH NATIONAL RACING PIGEON CLUB IS OPEN TO THE WHOLE OF SCOTLAND YOU AND THEY CAN JOIN ANYTIME ,WE CAN NOT JOIN THE SCOTTISH NATIONAL FLYING CLUB , BY CHOICE OF THE S.H.U. I TOLD YOU EARLIER RULE 2 AND WE WOULD ALL BE FLYING TOGETHER IF THE NATIONAL HAD OPTED FOR IT AT THE MEETING HARRY
doo Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 You are missing the point I am trying to make here......how can they be Nationals .....one Club thats lets all fly in it you have a National......two clubs & you have no National .... it's a club race
Guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 If every fancier in scotland went to saintes well that would be a uk national then
ALF Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 If every fancier in scotland went to saintes well that would be a uk national then THATS NEVER GONNAE HAPPEN VINNIE
doo Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 If every fancier in scotland went to saintes well that would be a uk national then With one club no you would have a scottish national ...to have a british national you would have to have all the home nations involved under one banner...then you would have a British National
Guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 THATS NEVER GONNAE HAPPEN VINNIE But if some do go,a lot more will follow.
ALF Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 I THINK THIS HAS RUN IT'S TIME AND A LID SHOULD BE PULLED OVER IT ;)
Guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 I THINK THIS HAS RUN IT'S TIME AND A LID SHOULD BE PULLED OVER IT ;) why?
ALF Posted April 18, 2008 Report Posted April 18, 2008 PS...I'M NOT IN ANY CAMP BUT I CAN SEE TROUBLE BREWING
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