tango_kid Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 Hi again, just got another quick querie: How can you tell how good a pigeon is by looking at it?? There seem to be alot of people on the site putting pictures up of their birds and every comment is a 'great birds mate' type reply. Can somebody please show me a picture of a bad bird and explain how to tell them apart because to be totaly honest they all look pretty tidy! And the ones which i wouldn't rate as highly seem to sell for more/be valued higher!! Thanks in advance, Mike.
Guest spin cycle Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 Hi again, just got another quick querie: How can you tell how good a pigeon is by looking at it?? There seem to be alot of people on the site putting pictures up of their birds and every comment is a 'great birds mate' type reply. Can somebody please show me a picture of a bad bird and explain how to tell them apart because to be totaly honest they all look pretty tidy! And the ones which i wouldn't rate as highly seem to sell for more/be valued higher!! Thanks in advance, Mike. thats a VERY good question.........
just ask me Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 u cant most of the best birds i own no one would have picked them out as young ones pll do like to balance in a pigeon and all the rest tat goes with it but the two most important places where no one can see is in there head and there hart give me a bad looking one with the two of these anyday really the only test is the basket they always look a stunner when u put a few firsts in front of them but for me give me brains and hart over all the eye theories wing theroies balance and the rest
The Navigator Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 It is just a term we use I suppose. Some look like rats but race like greyhounds.
Guest puresoontjen Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 i think it is unlikly any one will put a rough bird on the site thats why you only see there best
schyphos Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 u cant most of the best birds i own no one would have picked them out as young ones pll do like to balance in a pigeon and all the rest tat goes with it but the two most important places where no one can see is in there head and there hart give me a bad looking one with the two of these anyday really the only test is the basket they always look a stunner when u put a few firsts in front of them but for me give me brains and hart over all the eye theories wing theroies balance and the rest Brilliant answer.Absolutely spot on. Amazing when you go to sales and overhear many people stating that this bird,that bird is a cracker,and then pay a far inflated price just because they like the look of it. You cannot see its brain or heart so no one on this earth can pick great pigeons from bad ones every time.
just ask me Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 Brilliant answer.Absolutely spot on. Amazing when you go to sales and overhear many people stating that this bird,that bird is a cracker,and then pay a far inflated price just because they like the look of it. You cannot see its brain or heart so no one on this earth can pick great pigeons from bad ones every time. thanks but seems common sense to me only thing i would say about picking birds i do like birds to have character as in fighting for there perch or box like to see them with personality i do look to this with young birds when picking them for my widow hood team
pigeonscout Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 Here is a pic of a very small hen I once handled, Now going by its looks how much would you pay for it at a sale.
rembrant2coo Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 Nice hen £150 upwards ,depending on age
Guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 not enough info to guess and at the end of the day its only worth what some one will pay
Guest Freebird Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 I think the replies to peoples photo's are literally meaning " Good clean, fit looking bird in peak condition " Some like certain colours others like certain form or conformation. I agree with Just ask me that character is the most important thing in my opinion and I'm not just talking racers. Good thread though.
ChrisMaidment08 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 how about 2500 as it won one loft race
pigeonscout Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 The birds name is the sissi SISSI Ad Schaerlaeckens wrote ‘Sissi’ (she died in April 2000) was a breeding miracle. In 1996 I had 2 first provincial Ace-pigeons (average 11,000 birds in competition) they were brother and sister. This never happened in history. They were descendants of ‘Sissi’. I had 6 best pigeons in Combine: All descendants of Sissi. In 1999 I had again first 2 Acepigeons Provincial (average 10,000 birds in competition) they were descendants of ‘Sissi’. May 5th of this year (2000) I won 1st against 13,200 pigeons, 7 minutes ahead of the rest in hard weather (98-5812162). He was a descendant of ‘Sissi’. June 24th 2000 I won from Orleans 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th. All descendants of ’Sissi’. In 1996 I won 1st of 24,000 pigeons in hard weather. This bird called ‘Golden Eye’ is in Taiwan now and was a descendant of ‘Sissi’. In 1998 Mr Leyten had 2nd World Champion Long Distance (Versele Laga): Descendant ‘Sissi’. In 1999 Mr de Bruyn had 1st Provincial Ace (5,000 fanciers, ring 1998-1222890) she was also 5th best hen of Holland: Descendant of ‘Sissi’. He has another hen that won 3 firsts, descendants ‘Sissi’. Mr Roks won 9 firsts with descendants ‘Sissi’. Mr van Veen won 1st of 21,000 pigeons. Descendant of ‘Sissi’. In 1998 I won 8th, 10th, and 13th National Orleans. 3 descendants of ‘Sissi’. 98-5812191 won in 2000 in 5 weeks time 4 first prizes in great competition. He is a descendant of Sissi. 99-1944577 won in 3 different races 14,454 p – 1st, 9.508 p – 1st, S-Nat Oreans 10,500 p – 1st. This 577 is a gr.son of 92-5212278. 278 won 7 first prizes and is a son of Sissi. In 1999 I had apart from the first 2 Ace pigeons Provincial old birds the 1st Ace youngsters: Shirt Distance: Grandchild Sissi. I had also 1st Ace youngsters Middle Distance: Grandchild Sissi. In 2000 Mr v d Zijde has a bird that won at long distance 1st, 1st, 2nd. Two first prizes with 20 minutes advance and it is candidate to be National Ace long distance. Again a grandchild of ‘ Sissi’.
pigeonscout Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 The point im making is looks mean nothing it is results that count
Tony C Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 I’ve a pigeon in my loft that looks identical ........... who’s going to start the bidding at £10,000 ;D ;D ;D
ChrisMaidment08 Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 well i thought it was on loft winer but as its foraign 25quid
DOVEScot Posted November 18, 2008 Report Posted November 18, 2008 The birds name is the sissi SISSI Ad Schaerlaeckens wrote ‘Sissi’ (she died in April 2000) was a breeding miracle. Has it been stuffed :)
pigeonscout Posted November 18, 2008 Report Posted November 18, 2008 You could ask peter fox or john gerard they owned it before it died
just ask me Posted November 18, 2008 Report Posted November 18, 2008 fact the sissi lines are some of the most sought after lines in the world a amazing pigeon and u just proved a point as no one was even colse so is it true that a picture tells a 1000 words well not in this case anyway
Lennut Tar Posted November 18, 2008 Report Posted November 18, 2008 u cant most of the best birds i own no one would have picked them out as young ones pll do like to balance in a pigeon and all the rest tat goes with it but the two most important places where no one can see is in there head and there hart give me a bad looking one with the two of these anyday really the only test is the basket they always look a stunner when u put a few firsts in front of them but for me give me brains and hart over all the eye theories wing theroies balance and the rest Well !!!!!!!!! ;) I like the boy ;D ;D ;D, a man after my own heart (honest) no bullsh*t there etc. Take note all you newcomers now, "PMSL" & you may not be taken in, the next time someone smart ????????? :) try's to take your money out of your pocket "Big time". Enjoy.
tango_kid Posted November 18, 2008 Author Report Posted November 18, 2008 Thanks for all the replys guys. Mike
little sam Posted November 18, 2008 Report Posted November 18, 2008 IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHAT THEORYS PEOPLE LIKE TO SEE IN A PIGEON, DOSENT NESSESRALY MEEN THERE GOOD PIGEONS
Guest Freebird Posted November 18, 2008 Report Posted November 18, 2008 Has it been stuffed :) Had to be to produce so many winners(evil)(evil)(evil)
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