REDCHEQHEN Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 We had a yearling hen that held the last flight this year - which she dropped in June - she was stopped from racing for a month - but was sent to the last three old bird races - the last one was Lillers 317 miles -strong NW wind - and she was 3rd club (beaten by loft mates) and still 7 minutes ahead of the next loft in the club - this last flight was still not fully grown
Jumbo Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 i had a cock the won as a youngster and then won twice this year as a yearling carrying 2 nest flights . As a rule i do like to see them through the moult but if they are going to be good racers it doesn't hamper them if they don't .
budgie Posted November 23, 2008 Author Report Posted November 23, 2008 i had a cock the won as a youngster and then won twice this year as a yearling carrying 2 nest flights . As a rule i do like to see them through the moult but if they are going to be good racers it doesn't hamper them if they don't .Well done Jumbo if they are good enough they will win.On another note how many that completed the moult and not on the Darkness system won.
jimmy white Posted November 23, 2008 Report Posted November 23, 2008 i had a cock the won as a youngster and then won twice this year as a yearling carrying 2 nest flights . As a rule i do like to see them through the moult but if they are going to be good racers it doesn't hamper them if they don't . this was exactly my point ,, i dont say a bird carrying nest flights as a yearling is no good ,, i am saying , moreso with carrying the last one unmoulted flight, as a yearling can win and win well,[which happened to me, but at any given time when the bird becomes super fit , it can and will [as i have found out to my disadvantage] throw this last flight whilst in a race basket ,often at the same time in throwing its second flight often returning with 8 flights ,,all i am saying is this has to be kept in mind and watched very carefully, as, if this does happen the pigeon in question will be at a great dis-advantage , this usually happens the fitter the bird becomes
WulDon Posted December 2, 2008 Report Posted December 2, 2008 buttermilk will do the trick ;) how much per litre?
Guest youngzimmy Posted December 2, 2008 Report Posted December 2, 2008 you may find the lightness system is the better way to go
frank-123 Posted December 3, 2008 Report Posted December 3, 2008 how much per litre? i put the whole carton of 250 ml in a two litre drinker
Guest KING BILLY Posted December 3, 2008 Report Posted December 3, 2008 i have heard of late breeds wining big races carring 3 nest flights so wats the difrens is it the 98% thing and wy have 50 young ones to fly 150m into lanarkshire in the first place because whe never send moor than 16 to the young bird national on the darkness time for achange i think with all the truble conected to the darkness young ones is it worth all the hasle ops i made a bob i ment fly 59ml into lanarkshire i personly will have 20 early bread young ones on natural darkness just for the young birb national
pigeonscout Posted December 3, 2008 Report Posted December 3, 2008 If they have stopped the molt then you need to put the lights on in the loft for 16 hours a day. The birds will then start the molt where they left off. It will take about 7 to 10 days for them to drop the first old flight. Once the last flight drops go back to normal day light hours. If you do not want to do this then try cutting the tops of the flights they have not dropped, theses flights will then die and you can pull them in two weeks. In saying all that I never worry about birds that hold onto the last flight. Ps only give the light to the birds that need to drop the flights.
Guest milkyal Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 If they have stopped the molt then you need to put the lights on in the loft for 16 hours a day. The birds will then start the molt where they left off. It will take about 7 to 10 days for them to drop the first old flight. Once the last flight drops go back to normal day light hours. If you do not want to do this then try cutting the tops of the flights they have not dropped, theses flights will then die and you can pull them in two weeks. In saying all that I never worry about birds that hold onto the last flight. Ps only give the light to the birds that need to drop the flights. This is the way to do it and only give extra light for a couple hours extra a day.
Guest milkyal Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 If they have stopped the molt then you need to put the lights on in the loft for 16 hours a day. The birds will then start the molt where they left off. It will take about 7 to 10 days for them to drop the first old flight. Once the last flight drops go back to normal day light hours. If you do not want to do this then try cutting the tops of the flights they have not dropped, theses flights will then die and you can pull them in two weeks. In saying all that I never worry about birds that hold onto the last flight. Ps only give the light to the birds that need to drop the flights. This is the way to do it and only give extra light for a couple hours extra a day.
ransom50 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 ive never had a problem with darkies finishing the molt,they need feeding corectly and conditioning,and plenty of baths and small seeds ours are chucking their last 2 at the same time and ive never used lights and remember the moult and breeding are gold,racing is silver :)
Guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 i will never dispute good yearlings carring nest flights the following year winning good races there is allways some will go against the run of things and this is the first year i had any problem with them and i dont have the problem any more but i would just like to say that if any of my yearlings are carring nest flights for any race over 120mls i will have to think very very hard to send it on it will only be a yearling for a year it will be an old bird for the rest of its life and i hope to be sending as many yearlings to at least arras 487mls to me
slatey Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 this year my young cocks have had nothing but beans mixed with new wheat has i do every year i have gave them butter milk before but nothing this year 3 left to drop last flight should drop this week the last race 13th sept topped fed falaise she had not dropped a flight 1 weeks later she could have raced she dropped her last flight 1 weeks ago they know what they have to do dropping two three flights at a time. in less than 6 weeks she has moulted through
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