Which is the best Long Distance racing?

[jimmy white]

whatever breed , the 600 miler has to have that certain something, that many birds dont have

[andrew]

Long Distance racing is very diffrent compared to sprint / middle distance racing where as middle and sprint racing there are better familys for them with long distance i think you have to produce the long distance by working with diffrent pigeons crossing etc getting what you want buildinga  team able to cope with the distance required, for us we have crossed odd longer distance birds which can cope with the distance De Hoogh & ZN, M.Gilbert, G.Glbeert, DeWeerdt etc crossing them with the klaks which put that little extra in to them

 

[jimmy white]

i would definately agree with rose " time and patience" and im quite sure rose would agree that its easier said than done,, the pitfalls the downs,will try your patience to the limit, its often hard enough to keep them till their mature enough, with all the obstacles in the way,nowadays,,but to see one drop to you from , 5to 600 miles plus, is really some feeling  :'( :'(  ;D ;D

[rockinrick]

jan aarden have always been the bird for me to put across water , or up the road ,

 

cheers rockinrick

[pender]

in scotland i think you will find that there have been more nat winners containing kilpatrick bloodlines than any other strain of pigeon.

[sj irving jnr]

the super matt jamieson birds or the h beattie birds the old familys

[ALF]

Any pigeon that you can get on the day fae 500 mile is a good wan even if it is bred aff a street picker ;)

[Guest]

Couldn't agree with you more Alf.

[jimmy white]

i have just purchased a" pure " mongrel   its scored in a national, its mother and father scored out of nationals, its 4 g, parents scored in nationals and its 8 g parents scored out nationals [national winners among them,all over 500 miles] oh i wish i had more of these" mongrels" ;D ;D ;D and i mean it too ;D ;D ;D

[Wiley]

The Fear Brothers Pigeons was also very good long distance strain there is still some of that blood that runs through my long distance pigeons,there an old strain but they certainly do the job

[mike21]

whos breeding good extreme distance racers im looking for a very pure family thanks for any info

[jimmy white]

WONDER IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN " A VERY PURE FAMILY" MIKE,

[Wiley]

;D i never knew there was such a thing jimmy  ;D every pigeon you look at if you go right back through the pedigree was a cross,if you look through the lefebre dhaens the original pigeons were verhey(i no thats wrong spelling) and desmet mathys(probably wrong spelling) and the marcellis where jan hubrets and janseens

[swilcox]

Raymond Moleveld in Holland has the most outstanding distance family you would ever want to see and they are all based around a cock called De Lightenberg! I raced these for the first time this year as babys and they have been brilliant esp in hard head winds, one grand daughter won the club last week by 15 mins.

[swilcox]

Raymond Moleveld Top Jan Aarden Breeder De Lightenberg

[mike21]

what i mean is a family with very little outcrossing done with it from a breeder who picked up where the last one droped off and not gone and crossed into other familys

Mike

[Roland]

Plenty not worth a jot.

Any, and I believe all, were only great when an outcross was introduced. Then out crosses are constantly introduced. Hence the 'Name' only relates to the person(s) who made the birds - so called strain - famous.

Now a great hen that is saturated with the so called great blod, is usually a lot smaller and can hardly fly to the roof tops,

[jimmy white]

so really your meaning an inbred family of birds mike, as we  get duped by pure this and pure that,, really their all crosses at one time,  hope you get what your after,and wish you luck cheers mike

[Guest CS]

Nice pigeon, Stuart

[snowy]

whats the longest distance a members bird has flown from a race?

& how long did it take?

& what strain was it?

thanks

[jimmy white]

bill pentland had the record for over a thousand miles ,a few years ago, its been broken since, but the birds breeding was a mixture off all the old scottish distance birds , no particular breed just generations of distance paired to distance, and trying them out all the time, i knew bill well, sadly no longer with us

[jimmy white]

just looking back at that photo of    " de lightenberg"  what a beautifull looking pigeon and great photo   :)

[snowy]

thanks jim, rose & all,

 

[snowy]

do you think speed has anything to do with distance birds? as i mean is there such thing as a fast & slow distance pigeon?

regards

[markbrown]

In 2006 we have had the gaby vandenabeeles out to Fougeres 360 miles

with 1st club, 1st fed, 1st two counties combine, 2nd three counties combine 3943birds velocity 1254ypm

but bear in mind that the same cheq cock topped the club,fed,combine in may 06 out of Mangotsfield 136miles

 

Just good all round pigeons..

regards