Record velocities

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Was just reading of all the record velocities in the back of Squills..

 

Most of the records are held by Scottish, English or American lofts.. also a few Australian ones in there too..

 

So why do we continually hear that the Belgian, Dutch and Germans are so far ahead of us..?? Yet they dont seem to hold any records for the fastest flying pigeons from all distances..

[OLDYELLOW]

Was just reading of all the record velocities in the back of Squills..

 

Most of the records are held by Scottish, English or American lofts.. also a few Australian ones in there too..

 

So why do we continually hear that the Belgian, Dutch and Germans are so far ahead of us..?? Yet they dont seem to hold any records for the fastest flying pigeons from all distances..

 

selective publishing i think ,  did the author get facts for the continental fanciers ?  sometimes record velocitys are classed as improbable velocitys so there not a true reflection if odd bird had escaped there shipping create  

[Guest j.bamling]

I would only take them old squills records as a pinch of salt mate i doubt if they are

up to date with the modern racing here and abroad

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Its in the back of squills so im assuming its accurate. Theres records from Japan, Canada, Australia..South Africa..

[Guest j.bamling]

i am sure there was an american man/woman used to post on here sometimes she had broken some of them records yet i dont think she got into the squills records ? cant remember the name though  ;D

[REDCHEQHEN]

i am sure there was an american man/woman used to post on here sometimes she had broken some of them records yet i dont think she got into the squills records ? cant remember the name though  ;D

 

You mean slugmonkey?

[Guest j.bamling]

thats the one susan  

[blaz]

for the highest velosity their needs to be a very strong tail wind. them that have the records for highest velosity have the stronger tail wind. that is the reson the Belgium dutch and the Germans dont have any

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

If a pigeon flys a long distance and puts up a record performance velocity, you cant dis - credit the pigeon by putting this down to a tail wind..

 

For example.. an R.Whyte of Fraserburgh in the 1977 SNFC Nantes timed on the day from 723 miles with a velocity of 1594.. How can this just be down to a strong tail wind, thats even if it was a tail wind that day.. Is it not a pigeon bred and conditioned for the job..??

 

And by all accounts its equally as windy in Holland as it is in Britain

[Fair Play]

I remember timing in from Sartilly just over 12 hours never even had a sniff at the result the Borders cleaned up, was it a tail wind or exceptional pigeons? I don't know, it could be flat calm down at ground level and a howling gale up there tail wind or not surely it would be the same for most of the birds and the best are usually up front

[blaz]

If a pigeon flys a long distance and puts up a record performance velocity, you cant dis - credit the pigeon by putting this down to a tail wind..

 

For example.. an R.Whyte of Fraserburgh in the 1977 SNFC Nantes timed on the day from 723 miles with a velocity of 1594.. How can this just be down to a strong tail wind, thats even if it was a tail wind that day.. Is it not a pigeon bred and conditioned for the job..??

 

And by all accounts its equally as windy in Holland as it is in Britain

 

that is a very good pigeon and a top result. you can bet your bottom dollar their was a strong tail wind. it is not possible for a pigeon to cover that distance in that time without the wind behind it AND THATS A FACT.

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Im not disputing that tail winds do contribute to fast velocities.. but if a doo flies over 700miles on the day in to the North of Scotland theres been a lot more contributing factors than a tail wind

[blaz]

any pigeon flying 700 mile on the day needs a big heart a lot of guts and THE WIND BEHIND IT

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

The whole point of the thread tho.. is why is there no belgian or dutch lofts with record velocities.. do they not have tail winds in Europe..??

[blaz]

The whole point of the thread tho.. is why is there no belgian or dutch lofts with record velocities.. do they not have tail winds in Europe..??

 

not as strong as the birds with the records

[Guest slugmonkey]

My record got broke already some guy north of me ( another state ) it was about the same day as I did it and he is right online with me ...

live by the sword die by the sword !!!

[Roland]

Was just reading of all the record velocities in the back of Squills..

 

Most of the records are held by Scottish, English or American lofts.. also a few Australian ones in there too..

 

So why do we continually hear that the Belgian, Dutch and Germans are so far ahead of us..?? Yet they dont seem to hold any records for the fastest flying pigeons from all distances..

 

Well must admit, you will have, and some have already dismiss them as 'Whatever' and derided because you make a very genuine observation regarding the Belgian, Dutch and Germans etc. You mustn't question your Betters Lol. You will be reprimanded make no mistake lol.

You must remember this FACT when ever any one asks a question as such, or an 'Name' flyer etc. they come out the wood work in droves to defend willy nilly.

Soon be the 'Jealousy Sydrome' then the Terrain etc. etc.

Possibly terrain / Cold winds / the channel etc. Strange that they don't / won't affect our birds affect our birds  :-/

So take care when ever you ask a question regards the so called eletist.

After many years of trying to get a fair international for our birds the Continentals folded and gave us Dax.

Great result. I wrote every where  I could saying this will certainly be changed back. After the next great result the following year I offered odds to that effect. Of course I was right. And so many other know that too.... But becareful for there has been very many ludicriss reasons put forward as to why ... None outside of the real one makes an halfpeve of sense.... But many will deplore the concept that we have been cheater, and had a fairer leveller playing field stolen away from us.

Regardless where the pigeons come from, NO COUNTRY can hone and race them as good as the Brits and that's for sure. YET STILL we gve the Belgian, Dutch and Germans etc. credit saying their birds are superior. Cods Wallop. A pigeon is a pigeon and it takes a Good fancier' to get the best out of them. Yes of course there are great flyers / pigeons etc. within the Belgian, Dutch and Germans etc. lofts. Yes great pigeons fanciers. But again I say our top boys would more than give them a run for their' money. In no time at all one can come up with a 100 Great British fanciers to equeal any on the continent, or worldwide for that matter.  After the war, we gave birds to them all. Well to all of those that didn't risk the slaughter and torture of the evil regime of their families and loved ones and friends VIA supposedly cutting their crops so that they couldn't coo and be heard. I should co -coa.

I certainly would risk the lives of those I cared for and loved for a few pigeons no matter how much I wanted too. Nor would I go scampering around to beg / steal feed for them, again risking my children's and wifes etc. lives.