west section

[hotrod]

 

Lol.. i don't know how the race went.. but the SNFC lib'd at 0530 hours in to a Lt North West wind and the SNRPC lib'd at 0530 hours in to a South - West wind..

 

;D ;D surely we can agree on the wind lads..!?!?!? ;D ;D

 

i think the UNC  told both clubs what the wind was maybe some one didnt listen .

[Guest frank dooman]

 

Lol.. i don't know how the race went.. but the SNFC lib'd at 0530 hours in to a Lt North West wind and the SNRPC lib'd at 0530 hours in to a South - West wind..

 

;D ;D surely we can agree on the wind lads..!?!?!? ;D ;D

 

good point but just some one getting excited but yes it was a good race given the distance it was a start but no one want to admit it

[dwh]

as for a distance race i would love to see 200 birds from scotland going to saintes now thats a NFC race so should be no difference there all with a marking station/and clocks  in scotland no excusses not to send has any one got the birds to do that??????

 

you never know till you try frank?

[hotrod]

as for a distance race i would love to see 200 birds from scotland going to saintes now thats a NFC race so should be no difference there all with a marking station/and clocks  in scotland no excusses not to send has any one got the birds to do that??????

 

Wish a had one or two frank would love to have a go .

[BLACK W F]

thats why we need to all go together with the  big boys UNC / MNFC/NFC

 

common sense   bang on

[Guest frank dooman]

 

you never know till you try frank?

 

i tried but never worked but to tell the truth it was a year or to too soon for me but i will have another go this year but out of the 13 birds sent i think about 6/7 are home and 4 got on the result thats a good average so who going to have a go this year pm me if interisted

[sammy]

thats why we need to all go together with the  big boys UNC / MNFC/NFC

 

common sense   bang on  here allan there not much of that in SCOTLAND ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[rembrant2coo]

 

i think the reims distance is ok ,i wonder if chris little could post his distance from reims ? prob about 520/530 my guess .

 

crombie and mechan are 504 to reims if thats any help stuart

[hotrod]

 

crombie and mechan are 504 to reims if thats any help stuart

 

thats good harry its over 500 miles then .

[BLACK W F]

you seen what happened when they went up with the U N C  last time  won inAberdeen

and the west had a great race aswell

[Guest frank dooman]

 

thats good harry its over 500 miles then .

 

but remember stuart reims is now our furthest race point well for some some are androzell but not much in it so all the rest are under 500mls

[hotrod]

 

but remember stuart reims is now our furthest race point well for some some are androzell but not much in it so all the rest are under 500mls

 

yes frank that why we need a race further than andrezell ,prob tours ,that would get my vote ,but it all depends on whos' going were and on what date .

[Guest frank dooman]

great thread caitlin it has wondered a wee bit hope you dont mind but it lets members comment on all aspects of nat racing

[Guest stb-]

At one time you could get birds in to the west in reasonable time .

 

25 to 30 years ago you would look for your pigeons comming from the south up through beatock and abington,  over the years the birds have gotten less and less from this

 

required direction and are now mostly returning from an easterly and north easterly direction.

 

personnally i think most pigeon now dont want to come through the hills anymore and tend to go further up the coast and come in up the forth estuary and through the forthvalley.

 

I think the birds do this for safty reasons as they do not get attaked the same as they do in the hills,  albeit they go the long way i think there are more home that come this route

 

including some of the fanciers birds that have been previously mentioned.

 

When i send birds racing or training now you look to the east for them returning as 99% of the time thats the way they come

[Guest frank dooman]

 

yes frank that why we need a race further than andrezell ,prob tours ,that would get my vote ,but it all depends on whos' going were and on what date .

 

yes we all got cought out last year cant use that excuse this year but members need to be flexible with dates etc as you know!

[hotrod]

100% of the time rab not 99%

[Guest frank dooman]

At one time you could get birds in to the west in reasonable time .

 

25 to 30 years ago you would look for your pigeons comming from the south up through beatock and abington,  over the years the birds have gotten less and less from this

 

required direction and are now mostly returning from an easterly and north easterly direction.

 

personnally i think most pigeon now dont want to come through the hills anymore and tend to go further up the coast and come in up the forth estuary and through the forthvalley.

 

I think the birds do this for safty reasons as they do not get attaked the same as they do in the hills,  albeit they go the long way i think there are more home that come this route

 

including some of the fanciers birds that have been previously mentioned.

 

When i send birds racing or training now you look to the east for them returning as 99% of the time thats the way they come

 

agree robert i think the no,s sent from the west  has gone down that much its showing in the results just like all the inland races at least 75% of  birds sent to races are not fit/good enough for the job they will stagger home from the shorter races but less from over the water

[Guest stb-]

 

agree robert i think the no,s sent from the west  has gone down that much its showing in the results just like all the inland races at least 75% of  birds sent to races are not fit/good enough for the job they will stagger home from the shorter races but less from over the water

 

on a personal note frank i would love my pigeons to come from the south again, but as so few make it that way nowadays im quite releived when i see them comming from the east

 

as you know you will get most home to fight another day albeit they are adding maybe 100mls onto there journey.

 

In the west with the birds not coming straight as they used to i think a lot have been put of by being an hour or 2 behind some of the other pigeons  but untill something happens with bop in the hills its going to continue this way unfortunattly.

 

Ther are much less birds sent form here now as a lot are disolusioned.

 

I  go back 15 to 20 years and guys here that could win the west section were saying that it was almost a waste of time trying now as there were so few of there best birds even getting as far as going to the nationals.

 

That was some of the best guys who could race birds at 500 mls  so must of been really hard for the guys that are just starting to try 500ml races .

 

There sickend before they  start :B :B

 

 

[Chris Little]

 

i think the reims distance is ok ,i wonder if chris little could post his distance from reims ? prob about 520/530 my guess .

 

Reims for us is 502 miles, Andrezel isn't that much further :-/ :-/

 

National races are getting bladdy shorter..... why???

 

Never saw anything wrong with Niort, a real race it was, nowt stopping anyone still going there, the big North West of England clubs all go there 2nd weekend in July....... but ooops, its the wrong side of France

 

Great thread this though, nice to see a healthy debate as to who's got the best doos ;D

[hotrod]

 

Reims for us is 502 miles, Andrezel isn't that much further :-/ :-/

 

National races are getting bladdy shorter..... why???

 

Never saw anything wrong with Niort, a real race it was, nowt stopping anyone still going there, the big North West of England clubs all go there 2nd weekend in July....... but ooops, its the wrong side of France

 

Great thread this though, nice to see a healthy debate as to who's got the best doos ;D

 

nothing wrong with that side of france chris and would vote for this race ,and of course the west have the best doo's all the east boys know that 'their only pulling our legs  

[Chris Little]

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

Words of Wisdom from a guy that flew the best national winner in Scotland since Cholet 2005

[Guest frank dooman]

 

nothing wrong with that side of france chris and would vote for this race ,and of course the west have the best doo's all the east boys know that 'their only pulling our legs  

 

doesnt matter  what side at that distance it would get my vote

[Guest frank dooman]

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

Words of Wisdom from a guy that flew the best national winner in Scotland since Cholet 2005

 

nice 1 chris and its true of course ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D pair a fu--s  ;D ;D

[Guest uphallhen]

At one time you could get birds in to the west in reasonable time .

 

25 to 30 years ago you would look for your pigeons comming from the south up through beatock and abington,  over the years the birds have gotten less and less from this

 

required direction and are now mostly returning from an easterly and north easterly direction.

 

personnally i think most pigeon now dont want to come through the hills anymore and tend to go further up the coast and come in up the forth estuary and through the forthvalley.

 

I think the birds do this for safty reasons as they do not get attaked the same as they do in the hills,  albeit they go the long way i think there are more home that come this route

 

including some of the fanciers birds that have been previously mentioned.

 

When i send birds racing or training now you look to the east for them returning as 99% of the time thats the way they come

STB is it not that the birds have been drilled over the years to come from the east thanks to the lanarkshire with there race program.?????? and there is bop all over scotland so think about it.

 

 

[Guest stb-]

STB is it not that the birds have been drilled over the years to come from the east thanks to the lanarkshire with there race program.?????? and there is bop all over scotland so think about it.

 

 

nothing to do with that  birds will come from a to b where possible unless somthing stops them ie bop in the hills.

 

before we raced east 6 or 7 years ago and were on the west side the birds had already started  going up the easterly more safer side. If you read my post it says that it was starting to happen 25  plus years ago and has gotten steadily worse.

 

If i train my bird 50mls east most times nowadays i get them in the exspected time.

 

unfortunatly nowadays if i go 50mls south sometimes im lucky to get them at all and are scattered and take days.