caitlin Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 why are so many fanciers in the west so poor at nat racing. but jim hannah. davy elliot. jim cullin. john crosgrove. the rankins. j.j hood. win regular. and the rest have all the excuses about a bad area. but the above fanciers win every year no prob. its it poor pigeon men or poor pigeons
walterbmasson Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 to much racing pedigrees and photos of birds crap ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
slinky slitheroe Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 to much racing pedigrees and photos of birds crap ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D99% OF THE NAT WINNERS IN THE EAST WOULD NEVER HAVE WON A NATIONAL IF THEY WERE IN THE WEST.
slinky slitheroe Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 to much racing pedigrees and photos of birds crap ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DoH AND BY THE WAY THERES BEEN PLENTY EAST DOOS BROUGHT INTO THE WEST AND THE TRUTH IS THEY CANNY HACK IT HERE.
caitlin Posted January 6, 2010 Author Report Posted January 6, 2010 oH AND BY THE WAY THERES BEEN PLENTY EAST DOOS BROUGHT INTO THE WEST AND THE TRUTH IS THEY CANNY HACK IT HERE. then it must be bad doo men cause the good doo men can win there and win every year and the south section can get over from the east in nat races as they did in the y.b.n this year
walterbmasson Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 SLINKEY SLITHEROE who are you trying to kid the distance you are flying there would be a lot of nationals won in the west if it was reversed and not with 2-3 4 5 year olds [yearlings ] do you realy belive that a bird is not going to home because you stay in the west you must be in a different planet than me the difference between us north lads all our birds goes to the bitter end thats why there winning out of turn and going by some of the posts from the north boys there aim is to win the national you will here more from these extreme distance flyers and they would do it very easy in the west sec i for one would like to have a go at timing a heap on the day in NATIONALS DAY BIRDS ARE All going to be well up in nationals now with the amount sent ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D day doos that what you need 8) 8) 8) 8)
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 I think for one.. not as many West Sec fanciers even send as they did in years gone by.. An awful lot of respet has to be given to the West boys like Delboy, The Rankins, The Hoods, Hannah etc who year after year excel in the National scene.. Also one of the main factors is the last 50/60 miles.. doos are tired and have to run a gauntlet of the one of the most BOP infested areas in Britain.. as well as 9/10 times being in to a head wind. I often wonder the amount of good doos, which possibly could have been near the front being struck by a BOP in the final furlong.. And as regarding th East doos.. no dis - respect to any of the lads or their doos/perfromances, but i also agree that alot of east doos wouldn't make it in the West.. Jack McGougan told me when Eddie Newcombe was at his peak, Jack went and bought the best from him.. and they couldn't hack it in to this area..
slinky slitheroe Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 SLINKEY SLITHEROE who are you trying to kid the distance you are flying there would be a lot of nationals won in the west if it was reversed and not with 2-3 4 5 year olds [yearlings ] do you realy belive that a bird is not going to home because you stay in the west you must be in a different planet than me the difference between us north lads all our birds goes to the bitter end thats why there winning out of turn and going by some of the posts from the north boys there aim is to win the national you will here more from these extreme distance flyers and they would do it very easy in the west sec i for one would like to have a go at timing a heap on the day in NATIONALS DAY BIRDS ARE All going to be well up in nationals now with the amount sent ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D day doos that what you need 8) 8) 8) 8)MATE YOUR KIDDING YOURSELF ON.ITS EASY PEASY UP THAT EAST COAST AS SOMEBODY RIGHTLY SAYS THE EAST DOOS ONLY NEED TO FLY WAY THE ONE EYE OPEN ;D ;D ;D.tHEN THERES THE WEST WIND HELPING THEM YOU CANNY FAIL MAN.YOUS MIGHT BE GOOD WAY SHEEP BUT THATS ABOUT IT.
walterbmasson Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 JONESYBHOY WHAT DO YOU THINK IF SOME MEMBERS DOOS ARE HOMING INTO THE WEST SEC WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT THEM THAT SENDS AND DOESENT GET THEM GO AND BUY SOME OFF THEM THAT ARE TIMING BIRDS IF THEY ARE FLYING THE SAME DOOS AND NOT TIMING THEN LOOK AT THEM SELVES FOR THE PROBLEM (puke)(puke)
BLACK W F Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 think youve told it the way it is walter the truth hurts but you can buy the doos not the man ;)
dwh Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 why are so many fanciers in the west so poor at nat racing. but jim hannah. davy elliot. jim cullin. john crosgrove. the rankins. j.j hood. win regular. and the rest have all the excuses about a bad area. but the above fanciers win every year no prob. its it poor pigeon men or poor pigeons APOOR TRADESMAN BLAMES HIS TOOLS & EVERYTHING ELSE
slinky slitheroe Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 then it must be bad doo men cause the good doo men can win there and win every year and the south section can get over from the east in nat races as they did in the y.b.n this year DONT KID YOURSELF SOME OF THE NAMES YOU MENTIONED BLOW HOT AND COLD,BUUT I ALSO THINK THAT SOME OF THESE GUYS WOULD HAVE WON A NATIONAL IF THEY WERE IN THE EAST .
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 Im not disputing the fact that a lot of doos are most likely sent under prepared.. but that is the same every where.. the losses and non timers are excentuated in the West tho, as its the hardest area to fly in to.. The pigeon sport is all a matter of opinion. You could debate all day on any aspect of the game..
dwh Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 DONT KID YOURSELF SOME OF THE NAMES YOU MENTIONED BLOW HOT AND COLD,BUUT I ALSO THINK THAT SOME OF THESE GUYS WOULD HAVE WON A NATIONAL IF THEY WERE IN THE EAST . YOU CAN'T WIN EVERY RACE BUT THE TOP MEN ALWAYS SEM TO HAVE 1 OR 2 IN THE CLOCK
slinky slitheroe Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 APOOR TRADESMAN BLAMES HIS TOOLS & EVERYTHING ELSE HEY YOU NEED THE TOOLS MATE .I THINK CHURCHILL TOLD YOU THAT.
BLACK W F Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 you know what they say distance kills the north is the hardest route to fly into but look at the performances eat your heart out and weep we all know where the hard long distance doos are and it aint in the west :P :P
dwh Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 HEY YOU NEED THE TOOLS MATE .I THINK CHURCHILL TOLD YOU THAT. WE LUCKY IF WE WIN 1 A YEAR BUT WE DONT BLAME THE BIRDS REMEMBER CHURCHILL SENT SOME OF HIS BEST TOOLS TO CRETE AND GOT THEM WIPED OUT GOOD JOB HE WAS'NT CONVOYER HE'D A BLAMED HITLER 4 A BAD RACE
slinky slitheroe Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 JONESYBHOY WHAT DO YOU THINK IF SOME MEMBERS DOOS ARE HOMING INTO THE WEST SEC WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT THEM THAT SENDS AND DOESENT GET THEM GO AND BUY SOME OFF THEM THAT ARE TIMING BIRDS IF THEY ARE FLYING THE SAME DOOS AND NOT TIMING THEN LOOK AT THEM SELVES FOR THE PROBLEM (puke)(puke)LOFT LOCATION MY FRIEND PLAYS THE MOST IMPORTANT ROLE IN ANY PIGEON RACE.DONT FORGET THE GUYS IN WEST THAT ARE GETTING THEM ONLY GET THE ONE MOST OF THE TIME AND THATS FROM A GOOD NUMBER SENT.
walterbmasson Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 ALAN SO VERY TRUE MOST ARE THINKING HOW MUCH THEY ARE GOING TO TIME IN NATIONALS AND SOME ALWAYS TAKES THE NEGITIVE WAY WE CANT GET THEM INTO THE WEST BE POSITIVE OR YOU WILL NEVER WIN [NOTHING ] [ I HEARD A RUMOUR THAT THERE IS A SIDE STAKE FOR THE NORTH OF SCOTLAND FED MEMBERS HAVING A SIDE STAKE £100 FOR THE AVERAGE FOR LAST 4 LONGEST RACES AND LAST SNFC NATIONAL FALAISE I WOULD BE KEEN ON THAT 20 ENTER FLYING FOR £ 2;000 ANY INFO ON THIS [ INCLUDES J. DONALDSON ] YOU MUST BE IN IT TO WIN IT 8) 8) 8) 8)
BLACK W F Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 yes you got to have the tools but you got to know how to use them thats where most fail not up to the job then blame the birds area anything apart from themselves ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
BLACK W F Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 walter if i had a team of 2 y/olds i would bite your hand off but if there is might have a go with my yearlings better to have 6 left thats done the buisness as 40 that aint ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
dwh Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 LOFT LOCATION MY FRIEND PLAYS THE MOST IMPORTANT ROLE IN ANY PIGEON RACE.DONT FORGET THE GUYS IN WEST THAT ARE GETTING THEM ONLY GET THE ONE MOST OF THE TIME AND THATS FROM A GOOD NUMBER SENT. YBS YES BUT YOU GOT THE CATTLE N KNOW WOT U DOIN OBS WILL WIN NO MATTER WAT
Rebus Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 There is a loft in the west who has scored 23 out of the last 24 years in the Nationals, it certainly needs no excuses, and there are other lofts which have better records than some you have mentioned so get your facts right before making rash statements.
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 There is a loft in the west who has scored 23 out of the last 24 years in the Nationals, it certainly needs no excuses, and there are other lofts which have better records than some you have mentioned so get your facts right before making rash statements. You tell them Rebus.. WEST is BEST..!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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