pjc Posted January 22, 2010 Report Posted January 22, 2010 would prefer own. 200m is about right for yb's, I think it would be best to decide nearer the race on how to send them, fed, or on own. When you are trying to make it an affordable race the transport costs would be a lot less going with the fed than going on your own, especialy when you may only have 1/4 of the entry left etc.
pigeonpete Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Posted January 22, 2010 would prefer own. 200m is about right for yb's, I think it would be best to decide nearer the race on how to send them, fed, or on own. When you are trying to make it an affordable race the transport costs would be a lot less going with the fed than going on your own, especialy when you may only have 1/4 of the entry left etc. Cheers for the input :-)
Guest bakes Posted January 22, 2010 Report Posted January 22, 2010 me personally would prefure it if you sent your own birds down 200 miles is good enough for me at least they will get tested if there still in the loft come final race i dont no about letting them up with the transporter would of thought you would have to have a chat with your fed sec and the transporter driver see what they say all the best
Guest kevin b Posted January 22, 2010 Report Posted January 22, 2010 Would agree with what most of the lads have said, have entered numerous one lofts over the last few years. The first point is with 200 birds at the start at best you will only get 40% to the final race, so thats approx 80 to 100 birds, if you are going 200 mile with them I think its better if they are with another lib, gives them a fighting chance to get up. The information is vital, as Frank says in another post if you want to spread the entry over the entire UK and Ireland you must update the web site at least every other day during the training. Timing of the final race is another problem most of the races I have entered have had a major problem with, last week in August first week in september is just too late to expect the weather for a 200 mile race, if you could have it early or mid august it gives you a much better chance of liberating them on race day. Saves you a few bob and also if anyone wants to come and wath the race they will see a race. Health is a huge factor but as you are an experianced fancier I would rather send them to you than some chancer trying to make money. Just a few comments, wish you all the best with it if you decide to give it a go. Kevin
pigeonpete Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Posted January 22, 2010 Would agree with what most of the lads have said, have entered numerous one lofts over the last few years. The first point is with 200 birds at the start at best you will only get 40% to the final race, so thats approx 80 to 100 birds, if you are going 200 mile with them I think its better if they are with another lib, gives them a fighting chance to get up. The information is vital, as Frank says in another post if you want to spread the entry over the entire UK and Ireland you must update the web site at least every other day during the training. Timing of the final race is another problem most of the races I have entered have had a major problem with, last week in August first week in september is just too late to expect the weather for a 200 mile race, if you could have it early or mid august it gives you a much better chance of liberating them on race day. Saves you a few bob and also if anyone wants to come and wath the race they will see a race. Health is a huge factor but as you are an experianced fancier I would rather send them to you than some chancer trying to make money. Just a few comments, wish you all the best with it if you decide to give it a go. Kevin cheers for the comments Kevin, they have been noted :-)
john@formula 1 lofts Posted January 22, 2010 Report Posted January 22, 2010 I think you need to ket people have there own birds in the race as that is the fun other wise it is just like betting on horses etc. But always a good idea to have a syndicate or spares for sale for anyone with out birds to enter etc. I would have 3 weekends when birds could sent to the loft and keep the 3 lots separate until all kitted up. the biggest cause of illness is adding younger ones to the team IMO. Once you have the weekend and all birds are in that section treat them up for everything to make sure all are clean before they are let out etc. Hope this helps a little John
lightning fast Posted January 22, 2010 Report Posted January 22, 2010 I have entered a few and the biggest problem is always the health. One of them dident even get to the final race as the birds were dying left right I think with circovirus. That put the guy off tring it again, but plenty go ahead every year, and people will always enter them. I would
pigeonpete Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Posted January 22, 2010 I think you need to ket people have there own birds in the race as that is the fun other wise it is just like betting on horses etc. But always a good idea to have a syndicate or spares for sale for anyone with out birds to enter etc. I would have 3 weekends when birds could sent to the loft and keep the 3 lots separate until all kitted up. the biggest cause of illness is adding younger ones to the team IMO. Once you have the weekend and all birds are in that section treat them up for everything to make sure all are clean before they are let out etc. Hope this helps a little John Thanks very much John, Yes it helps, All comments will be listened to and taken into consideration i want to make this a sucess so i am putting the welfare of the pigeons, and fanciers needs before anything else. I am not just going ahead, making a set of rules, And then say here you go like it or lump it. I will base it on what people want, I dont expect to make any money out of it in the first year.
pigeonpete Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Posted March 23, 2010 Still thinking about dong this, but now planning on approx 100 birds first year just to see how it goes, and peoples own birds will be sent. and looking at an entry fee of £35/40 per bird, so any more ideas/input please also if you would be interested, please say so :-)
PIGEON_MAN Posted March 23, 2010 Report Posted March 23, 2010 One thing Jeremy is doing this year at the RPRA loft is telling everone to vacinate their birds at least 1 week before he excepts them,this is to try and cut down illness,be worth keeping a eye on how things go.
marmite Posted March 23, 2010 Report Posted March 23, 2010 i would deff b interested at that sort of entry fee as i would love to enter others but as im low income they are to expensive but would love to test my birds on a lvl playing field on the health side i feel as has been suggested have certain wkends when entries are taken in so they in a seperate section and treated best of luck clive
blaz Posted March 23, 2010 Report Posted March 23, 2010 if your final race was north to south i would be up for it
pigeonpete Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Posted March 23, 2010 if your final race was north to south i would be up for it would not be possible im afraid blaz, as no north road clubs round here, and these will be going with fed birds :-)
blaz Posted March 23, 2010 Report Posted March 23, 2010 would not be possible im afraid blaz, as no north road clubs round here, and these will be going with fed birds :-) best of luck with it hope it is a success.
p charlton Posted March 23, 2010 Report Posted March 23, 2010 the only one loft race i would enter is the rpra one after reading the one on chat the other year put me right off
Tony Posted March 23, 2010 Report Posted March 23, 2010 I will be up for it mate but i would like my own birds in it.
harky Posted March 23, 2010 Report Posted March 23, 2010 the only one loft race i would enter is the rpra one after reading the one on chat the other year put me right off Disagree , lasts years paraglider episode finished me with that one (RPRA) All the best in your venture Pete maybe give it a go next year
Wizzer Posted March 23, 2010 Report Posted March 23, 2010 Think the rpra has had enough of our money. Won`t enter into theres out of principle. May consider others though.
pigeonpete Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Posted March 23, 2010 the only one loft race i would enter is the rpra one after reading the one on chat the other year put me right off No problem, Everything will be transparent here, updates daily. Appreciate you dont know or trust me, but i can assure anyone it will be run for the fancier, i will not take any money out of the entry fees :-) Will all be paid in prize money minus, bird entry fees to fed races :-)
pigeonpete Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Posted March 23, 2010 when do you want the birds Pete? not till next year Phil ;D would have to have a window, of say a 3 week period, maybe last 2 weeks in feb, and first week of march, to give everyone a chance??
Guest frank dooman Posted March 23, 2010 Report Posted March 23, 2010 i would not be interisted if i couldnt enter my own birds but that might suit some as harky says we all have had our ups and downs with all the different races ive sent to the rpra one for 5 years and never realy had a prob execpt the one year they changed the final race distance to me thats not on if they say 250mls at the start thats what it is i understand there reasons for it but i think its a completly different train of thoughts regarding 1 loft races the birds are there for 1 reason and 1 only the final race some just cant get that into there heads if you dont think your birds can with stand all the training and final race then dont send jeremy has over the last 4/5 years got it bang on he will give the birds that have had a hard 1 a rest but doesnt pussy foot about and he gets them back on raceing been to most of them more than once and without doubt the rpra is by far the best and fairest JMO
pigeonpete Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Posted March 23, 2010 Still thinking about dong this, but now planning on approx 100 birds first year just to see how it goes, and peoples own birds will be sent. and looking at an entry fee of £35/40 per bird, so any more ideas/input please also if you would be interested, please say so :-) Yes will be fanciers own birds that are sent to race frank :-)
Guest frank dooman Posted March 23, 2010 Report Posted March 23, 2010 Yes will be fanciers own birds that are sent to race frank :-) pete dont mean to sound down on the idea but some dont realise just whats involved pm jeremy he will put you right on this its a fine line between getting it right and total failure its very hard work and quite expencive to get it right all the best if you decide to give it a go ;)
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