electric fence

[Roland]

When anythin touches the wire and on solid ground etc. if you was able to walk bear footed along the wire it would affect you one mite ... like birds sitting on pylon wires etc. but once the wire has ground contact it becomes live.

[Guest frank dooman]

it has an earth just not on the photo its just a circle right round the lofts and back then it goes to earth where it starts i have 3 earths in just incase

[Guest cosmic dave]

I know there has been a lot of electric fence questions at the mo so here is another, If I made a electric fence with a car battery and a bird got zapped would it kill it ?  :-/

[demolition man]

I know there has been a lot of electric fence questions at the mo so here is another, If I made a electric fence with a car battery and a bird got zapped would it kill it ?  :-/

 

its only 12volts i doubt it

[Guest frank dooman]

wouldnt think so but i have touched mine and it does give you a fair dunt mind the wife loves it it wont go down for a week ;)

[WHITTY]

HI M8 electric fences dont bother birds i have had one for 18 years and my birds have landed on it dose not effect them at all  

[Guest bakes]

I know there has been a lot of electric fence questions at the mo so here is another, If I made a electric fence with a car battery and a bird got zapped would it kill it ?  :-/

 

no mate but would make it no its not suppose to be there ive been zapped a few time out with my dad with the dogs thought i lowered electric fence only to walk into it soon made me jump oldman and farmer was rowling around floor in laughter i had a line across my leg i had the last laugh when they said drop the fence as the farmer as the removable one with strong plastic stakes that hold it in place lifted it up when they went to step over one got it unside leg other right on the left bum check i was in tears they never done it to me again ;D its just a quick tick feeling like static x that my 100 or so and that what you get i no one gamekeeper thought he turned it off when we was out again on the lamp he needed a pee only went and peed on it never senn a bloke jump so high  ;D put it this way his misses was with us at the time she was crying in laughter ;D

 

all the best.

[Guest Owen]

An proper electric fence has very high voltage but very low amperage. If you touch it, you will be thrown off it. A bit like touching a spark plug lead on a vehicle. I have had a fence unit for years. Originally it was one that was run from a 12 volt battery, but in recent times it is run from the mains. I have often seen pigeons touch it without must affect on the pigeon. Their feathers seem to be a protection for them. It is a totally differant matter with cats and dogs. One touch and they never want another.  

[airdrie2]

BIRDS ARE NOT EFFECTED AS THEY NEED TO BE TOUCHING AN EARTH IE GROUND AND WIRE JUST THINK THEY STAND ON ELEC PYLON WIRES AND OK

[Guest frank dooman]

BIRDS ARE NOT EFFECTED AS THEY NEED TO BE TOUCHING AN EARTH IE GROUND AND WIRE JUST THINK THEY STAND ON ELEC PYLON WIRES AND OK

 

thats not the case with them there is a pulse going through it all the time its switched on so if the birds sit on it they  will get a blast its a circuit mine has an earth i dont keep it on when the birds are out maybe iam getting it wrong

[Guest Owen]

Frank, there really is no cause to worry about it. I have seen my birds touch it loads of times without it bothering them. I have even seen them push through the bottom wires to get at a patch of weeds the other side. And the same birds will do that every day. No cat, dog or even a human would get away with that. Perhaps their feathers help to insulate them.

[Guest frank dooman]

yes i know owen its just that i back on to a school and all though the fence is over 6ft i put it on a timmer so there can be no probs its at night when the fence comes into its own during the day iam allways about with the dogs

[soapy]

i wouldnt worry about it frank , it might put some life into them mongerels ,     wattie

[airdrie2]

I HAVE AN ELEC FENCE AROUND FIELD FOR HORSES AND MY DOOS LAND ON IT NO PROBS

[Roland]

What a lot don't realise is that a car battery charger - under a tenner now will do the same job as an electric fence.

The main wire (Red) is attached to the wire fence, singled or doubled wire, and the Earth wire (Black) is attached to a ground peg well earthed.

Yes same is needed as rgards insolation - rubber etc. for fixing. But set up the same it works just the same.

[Guest Owen]

Roland, does it pulse the same as the normal electric fencer?

[Roland]

yes I believe so. Farmers use this as a stop gap covering fields... and also for smaller plots.

[Guest challengerlofts]

What a lot don't realise is that a car battery charger - under a tenner now will do the same job as an electric fence.

The main wire (Red) is attached to the wire fence, singled or doubled wire, and the Earth wire (Black) is attached to a ground peg well earthed.

Yes same is needed as rgards insolation - rubber etc. for fixing. But set up the same it works just the same.

 

Would you mind to take a picture, please. Thanks

 

[Guest Freebird]

Roland, does it pulse the same as the normal electric fencer?

Don't think it will pulse but someone with electronic knowledge could probably get it pulsing. Roland may well be correct in assuming this will do the same job. I do not know if it would work, especially when it is shorted out by the culprit as I think it would blow a fuse or trip. Maybe someone with electronic knowledge can enlighten us. Interesting though.

 

 

[Fair Play]

Would the charger not produce a continuous supply? maybe require something else to break the supply down to produce a pulse

[Guest cosmic dave]

Is a pulse important as long as the cats get the message ?  :-/

[Ronnie]

if its AC it will pulse Ac=Alternating current.If its dc it will just shock ya Dc=direct current.Ac was introduced mainly to let people let go when they get shocked , first shock will cause a spasm and muscles will contract (grab hold) the current then alternates and forces the muscles to go the other way (let go).thats what i was led to believe not sure how accurate that is but its something along them lines.

thats for a household enviroment .The railway is completely different and i suppose battery chargers will be as well lol.

[Ronnie]

The subject needs to be earthed to get shocked.

[Guest Freebird]

The subject needs to be earthed to get shocked.

 

Spot on. If a bird lands on it there will be no contact with earth so o.k. but if a bird is in contact with ground (earth) or anything that is earthed i.e. loft roof then it will defo get a bang. If it doesn't then neither will a cat. The feathers may well be insulators but if it should peck at the fence wire while earthed it could well do serious damage. As owen says there is very low current but some of the bigger units i.e. for horses could seriously damage a pigeon. My fence is always switched of when the birds are out, just in case. The units that are powered by car battery's do not use the 12 volts from the battery to pulse the fence directly the battery is merely powering the energiser which pulses electronically via a coil which sends out on average 6,000 volts, yes 6,000 volts which in effect is harmless as it is current that kills. Look at it this way comparing it to water. Voltage = pressure. Current = volume. So an energiser lets out a very small volume but it's under very high pressure a bit like a water pistol, the cat gets a fright but it don't get drowned. Think I've probably made it more confusing, OOps!

 

[thunderbigbaws]

i need to get one quick, what is the best one to get and where to get it . thanks brian