FoxesFan4Ever Posted May 30, 2009 Report Posted May 30, 2009 Hi all, I was mentioning to a guy at the marking last night that my birds have fleas and I asked him where I could get some One Drop locally instead of sending off for it. He said "Stay away from that stuff" and went on to tell me about a programme on TV about it which said it sends the birds infertile among other things..a lot of which I cant remember. Has anybody else seen this programme, I think he said it was on last night (Thursday) ( I don't think it's a wind up but can't swear to it)and if it's true does anyone have a substitute to recommend? Thanks all...good luck today !!!!
ribble Posted May 30, 2009 Report Posted May 30, 2009 Agree not as effective as years gone by, never had or heard of it causing infertility. Try dipping them in chloracarb.
Guest IB Posted May 30, 2009 Report Posted May 30, 2009 I think you need to tell us the active ingredient in the product. Insects are just like any other 'bug' if you use the same active ingredient on them for long enough, they'll develop immunity to it. Members usually post up the product name and their opinion on it, try at least two different ones that have different active ingredients, which members have been recommended on here. I use Harka-mectin, (ivermectin) one drop (two drops actually ;D ) but like other products it has its drawbacks: my youngsters have lice, but birds aren't 8 weeks old yet, so can't use it on them yet.
Mixxy Posted May 30, 2009 Report Posted May 30, 2009 harkers stuff is crap,and too pricey.get the injectable ivomec from local animal food dealer, sheep cows ect,and give them two drops in a pipper down throat.no flea lice or worms.
Babybird Posted May 30, 2009 Report Posted May 30, 2009 where do they pick these flea lice and worms up from?
Guest ljb107 Posted May 30, 2009 Report Posted May 30, 2009 I have been using noromectin pour on for cattle for about 5 years and haven't had any problems, just put a couple of drops on the skin on the back of the neck or under the wing. All of my birds are mire and lice free. Lloyd
greenlands Posted May 30, 2009 Report Posted May 30, 2009 Why not just give them Moxidectin for a day,sorted.
FoxesFan4Ever Posted May 30, 2009 Author Report Posted May 30, 2009 I think you need to tell us the active ingredient in the product. Insects are just like any other 'bug' if you use the same active ingredient on them for long enough, they'll develop immunity to it. Members usually post up the product name and their opinion on it, try at least two different ones that have different active ingredients, which members have been recommended on here. I use Harka-mectin, (ivermectin) one drop (two drops actually ;D ) but like other products it has its drawbacks: my youngsters have lice, but birds aren't 8 weeks old yet, so can't use it on them yet. Hi all and thanks for all the answers. I personally cant name any of the ingredients as I have never used it. I was just told this story the other day and trying to do my best for my birds by finding a product that is as safe as I can to use on them. I have to say that my mentor swears by One Drop and he recommended it to me. If he has had problems he hasn't told me so as ever there is 2 sides to every story. Thanks again for all the help!!
peterpau Posted May 30, 2009 Report Posted May 30, 2009 Ivermectin or Moxidectin, either will do, and are recomended by the vet Colin Walker
Guest IB Posted May 30, 2009 Report Posted May 30, 2009 where do they pick these flea lice and worms up from? They are nearly all pigeon parasites, so they must come from other pigeons. Fleas & lice can move between birds. Both lay eggs in 'live' feathers or close to the skin, so theres generation waves, you might do the birds and only kill the adults, but these may have left behind eggs to hatch and re-infest the birds; Worms are a bit different. My understanding is that its in your own loft that the birds pick up the eggs. The eggs have to be in a damp environment for a while and eaten by the pigeon before they can hatch out in the gut. Female adults then lay eggs, which are passed in the droppings... that's why it's important that the loft is bone dry, eggs & oocysts (cocci) cannot exist without moisture. Dry them out and you kill them. Kill the egg stage on the floor and you break the lifecycle, these cannot go on to reinfect your birds..
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