BAYTRIL

[newbold]

what do you think of :BAYTRIL: is it a good product and dus it work and is £30 for 100ml a good price

[frank-123]

what do you think of :BAYTRIL: is it a good product and does it work and is £30 for 100ml a good price

 

used properly i think it is a fantastic product £30 for bayers baytril sounds about right you can get cheaper baytril called enofloxin(spelling from spain) its the generic name for baytril

if you are going to use it make sure after the treatment you load probiotics back into your birds for at least seven days

 

only use it as a last resort!!!

[Guest strapper]

what do you think of :BAYTRIL: is it a good product and dus it work and is £30 for 100ml a good price

 

not sure the price but be warned its very strong and brilliant when used properly...better than many other medications that cure tha same things.

[Guest lenwadebob]

When used for a specific illness in pigeons, it is very good, but should not be used randomly without correct diagnosis of the problem.

[Guest Davy Fleming]

lenwadebob you are right mate use it for and at the correct time and it will be ok but using it randomly and you are OFF YOUR TROLLEY. Nearly all medicines that work immediately are great because you will have used them at the correct time and for for the right reasons. Anything else is a guess and having many years of experience have found that guess work doesn't work. Myself and Owen and a few others keep telling you to get them tested and you will have cracked it first time you will get the bird back to the best of health in no time with the least of unnecessary discomfort to the bird and it will repay you financially in the long term so just have a word with yourselves if you think you know better because you don't and you can't prove us wrong.    You will also go and pay a lot of money for birds and then when there is a problem use this rubbish THINKING it will do the the trick well you got it wrong so listen and you will be glad you did. good luck

[chickadee]

When used for a specific illness in pigeons, it is very good, but should not be used randomly without correct diagnosis of the problem.

 

Some vets/doctors are as much to blame, if you go with problem they prescribe broad spectrum antibiotics with is what Baytril is, the good ones then send away swabs/ blood/stool samples for analysis and if need be prescribe a different one. You don't go to the vet/doctors and say everything is fine can I have some medicine please ;D

[Guest Davy Fleming]

A lot of vets don't have a clue about pigeons . If you go and ask for something because I have had them tested and they have such and such and this is what I need to sort it they will give you it because they don't really know anyway. They will just stand there and talk to you for ten minutes and try to justify there fee

[Roland]

Destroys everything I believe, good and bad.... then one has to start again building up. Wily nilly use is foolhardy for sure.

Must use when everything / anything else has failed.

As a foot note, if one has to reort to such strong remedy, is it  :-/ or it has to be worthwhile :-/. JMO.

I personally would look at alternative measure first.... but thenwho am I? Not a Vet, who may well be the best sauce to buy. Wasn't able to buy legally at one time and had to be prescribed by a Vet.... Unless brought in from France / Spain or where ever.

[dwh]

baytril is used as abroad spec.antibiotic we vaccinate against paratyphoid and were advised to treat with baytril 10 days b4 vac. to prevent infection atvac point and reaction to any birds that are carriers

[walterbmasson]

DAVY FLEMING FANCIERS THINKING ABOUT STARTING UP IN OUR SPORT OF RACING PIGEONS PLEASE TELL THEM NOT TO LOOK AT THE PIGEONBASICS SITE THE AMOUNT OF MEDICINES I;E DRUGS USED BY FANCIERS IS [ ASTRONOMICAL] THERES NOT A DAY GOES BY THAT THERE ISNT A LOT OF POSTS ABOUT DIFFERENT AILMENTS AND THEN ALL THE POSTS AND RUBBISH TO GIVE THEM AND THER IS PLENTY JUST LOOK AT THE COMPANIES MAKING BIG KILLINGS OUT OF OUR SPORT NEEDLESSLY AND THOUSANDS THROWING MONEY MONEY AWAY A GOOD DESERT SPOON OF EPSOMS SALTS EVERY MONTH TO KEEP THE GUT CLEAN HERBS BREATH FREE EVERY EVERY SUNDAY [ AND DAVY I MUST BE DOING SOMTHING RIGHT I TREAT FOR CANKER WORMS COCCI BEFORE PARING UP

AND THEN CANKER EVERY 4 WEEKS ANY TIME I HAVE SENT MY DROPPINGS AWAY IT ALWAYS COMES BACK YEAST AND THAT COSTS 40 POUNDS SO FROM NOW ON I WILL GIVE THEM NYSTATIN ONCE A WEEK THERES ONE THING FOR SURE ANY NEW FANCIERS STARTING UP WILL HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD BANK BALANCE AND A VERY GOOD BRAIN TO KNOW THEM [ASTRONOMICAL WORDS ] JUST TO FINISH THIS  BATRIL THE ONLY THING THIS DOES IS KNACKERS YOUR BIRDS BONES AND THIS IS FROM A PROFESSOR DONT START ONLY LEAD TO MUCH BIGGER PRBLEMS [bE WARNED AND ITS NOT A PROFESSOR THAT IS TELLING YOU]

[dwh]

can't say i disagree but where does the yeast infection come from?

[walterbmasson]

 

DWH I DONT KNOW BUT ITS CHEAP TO GT OU OF CHEMIST BUT IF IAM NOT HAPPY AND MY BIRDS ARE NOT WILLING TO FLY I ALWAYS SEND DROPPINGS AWAY SURE ENOUGH COMES BACK A MORE THAN NORMAL AMOUNT OF YEAST I THINK ITS A BACTERIAL PROBLEM SOMEONE COULD LET US KNOW

[sammy]

DWH I DONT KNOW BUT ITS CHEAP TO GT OU OF CHEMIST BUT IF IAM NOT HAPPY AND MY BIRDS ARE NOT WILLING TO FLY I ALWAYS SEND DROPPINGS AWAY SURE ENOUGH COMES BACK A MORE THAN NORMAL AMOUNT OF YEAST I THINK ITS A BACTERIAL PROBLEM SOMEONE COULD LET US KNOW

 

check yir feeding out and were its stored if yi constantly have a problem with yeast

[dwh]

w/b old fashioned remedy 4 yeast was cider vinegar is coxi/canker treatment anti's cos i was led to believe yeast always reared its head after anti's

just a thought does the yeast appear after cox/canker t/ment

[walterbmasson]

DWH THIS LAST 3 YEARS YOUNG BIRD RACING ONLY

[Guest Davy Fleming]

Walter ,  Well put mate,    Yeast infections and bacteria infections in my opinion are theeeeee main problem in losses , I know there are many other reasons but it would be my opinion that this is the main problem. You will always get these fungal probs when feeding anything with oil,  meaning,  covering your feed with any type of oil . To me the worst thing  is using an oil then covering your feed with Brewers yeast this is then big big big trouble. Through past experience I know that if my birds land on the house roof then I will go mmmmmm is everything ok and start to think or maybe won't come down when asked  or won't fly much then I know I have a prob . Will go and see about it and can bet my last penny it is this yeast or bacteria and are always 99% right . As for cocci and worms well I never had the prob for at least 6/7 years so never had to treat for any of them  and you really shouldn't have either in your loft so think you may be treating for nothing on that one Walter but know how difficult it is for you guys up North to find out howq things are on that score.

[dwh]

d/f u never had any problems at all 4 6-7 years?

[Guest Davy Fleming]

not had probs with cocci or worms NO

[dwh]

d/f i was always led to blieve if you have an infection or some medical problem 1 of the first reactions to this is the cocci count goes up ?

[Guest Davy Fleming]

It will but if you treat for the prob the cocci will go down

[dwh]

whn you treated  the problm  do you chk yor c/count??

[Guest IB]

Yeast is a normal part of the gut - human & bird alike. My understanding of 'yeast overgrowth' is that  it is caused in the main by medications which kill a lot of the gut bacteria, causing an imbalance which also leaves 'space' for these yeasts to grow. Most medications for canker cocci worms etc are in fact antibiotics, so in my opinion there is no point in going to town on 'just' baytril users - anyone using drugs regularly is causing problems for themselves, while at the same time probably blaming their birds' recurring infections on others. And to then suggest adding yet another 'regular' medication ? reminds me of the lyrics of the old song 'I know an old woman who swallowed a fly'

[dwh]

IB this is  was wat i was no am tryig to say

[Guest Davy Fleming]

This is now coming back to what I said earlier on . Have a problem?? get them tested then you  are not treating blind then everything is safe for the bird

[dwh]

do  you use a vet to test your birds