External Parasites

[Elvan Willgrass]

Thanks for the replies, in all the years I have had pigeons quill mite has been a problem even the drops on the neck etc don’t seem to do the job. Regarding putting the wing in boiling water I would be a bit worried I damaged the feathers especially when they are almost through the moult. I think I will try the CHLORCARB. Good picture of the mite in question, I have had a microscope myself for a lot years and always said I would have a close look at them but I need not bother now.  

[Guest karl adams]

CHLORCARB is the best thing to use  i mix it with warm warter  and dip my birds in up to there head  but must keep beak and eyes clear when ive diped all my birds i then put the mix into a spray bottel and then spray out the loft

 

[Guest casbri]

put parrafin on this will kill the mite i have done it and it works

[chickadee]

put parrafin on this will kill the mite i have done it and it works

 

Does parafin not harm the birds when they preen themselves?

[sammy]

put parrafin on this will kill the mite i have done it and it works

 

so it will if you light a match   :o

[chickadee]

 

so it will if you light a match   :o

 

:o I personally would never use paraffin on any off our birds.

[GROVEHOMER]

   Does anyone know the active ingredients of Chlorocarb?..I dipped birds in the same strength solution as I sprayed the loft out with, the dip solution should've been half the strength of the loft spray, I've been a bit worried that I could've harmrd the birds in some way. :

[ALF]

   Does anyone know the active ingredients of Chlorocarb?..I dipped birds in the same strength solution as I sprayed the loft out with, the dip solution should've been half the strength of the loft spray, I've been a bit worried that I could've harmrd the birds in some way. :

 

I USUALLY JUST FILL A BUCKET WITH LUKE WARM WATER AND ADD THE CONTENTS OF THE PACKET AND MIX IT THEN DIP THEM ALL

 

 

[Guest]

The label is very light on ingredient information. Synergistic extracts? Extracts of what? But it also states it is very safe to use.

 

The other description 'repels insects' also set me wondering. Does it just repel them, or does it kill them too?

[GROVEHOMER]

    Yes Bruno'  "synergised extracts"  (more than one extract, gaining effectivness from being mixed with one another)  This solution dried my hands out, it had a lime effect on my skin (until I rinced it off).

  I once read of a product made from ground fossils ( F.S FOSSIL or something like that, can't remember the exact name). It aparrently bogged down the mite, with basically the same effect baby oil has on human hair lice....I wonder if Chlorocarb is the same kind of thing, if so, I reckon it's safe enough, my birds don't look adversely effected.

[ALF]

WELL I DIPPED MY Y/B'S IN IT AND HAD MY BEST Y/B SEASON YET ;)

[GROVEHOMER]

Fair enough Alf, glad it worked for you. Isn't a bucket 2 gallons (approx 10 litres, that would be the correct dip strength but only half strength of loft treatment.

[Guest]

Quill what?

Sorry but never seen them,if you put a routine medication programme in place then you will never even see such things.Do you wait till your dog has worms before you worm it?

[GROVEHOMER]

  Chrissy, I haven't got Quill mite, in fact the only problem I've ever had with quill mite is from other fanciers birds...I know the title of this thread is "Quill mite" but "Chlorocarb" is mentioned in eradicating this menace as well as other feather vermin.

             Recently I dipped my birds and sprayed my loft, as part of my routine medication regime. I hope this clears up any confusion.

[Guest]

    Yes Bruno'  "synergised extracts"  (more than one extract, gaining effectivness from being mixed with one another)  This solution dried my hands out, it had a lime effect on my skin (until I rinced it off).

  I once read of a product made from ground fossils ( F.S FOSSIL or something like that, can't remember the exact name). It aparrently bogged down the mite, with basically the same effect baby oil has on human hair lice....I wonder if Chlorocarb is the same kind of thing, if so, I reckon it's safe enough, my birds don't look adversely effected.

 

Think its wise to point out there are two products with similar names, chlorcarb, for mites & stuff, by Aviform ; and chlorocarb, a gardening product, which is for getting rid of fungus & moulds on plants.

 

chlorcarb label doesn't really tell you what these extracts are; know what you are saying but I'd have thought is would have said extract of [plant a] + [mineral b] etc; the fossils are diatoms, and the Sunday name is diatomaceous earth, which is marketed under another name, and added to poultry pellets [i think]. As you say it sticks to the insect waxy coat and suffocates it, apparently they breath thro their skin? Stalosan works in much same way, except the waxy coat breaks down and this causes complete dehydration of the insect's body fluid too.

 

As I said, label says its perfectly safe and says nothing about accidental overdose, so I agree no harm done. If you were still worried, I'd let them take an ordinary bath.

 

Always interested in info on products like these because of a problem with the odd bird, apart from garlic in weekly bath, haven't needed to worry about using any of them, tho I have harka-mectin [ivermectin] on order to treat that future odd bird that I'm not happy with.

 

 

 

 

[GROVEHOMER]

Baths planned for tomorrow.

    The only birds showing any signs of infestation were birds recently bought in (only a mild lice problem, which as we know, will become worse if untreated)

      The birds are clean now, so at least I know double strength works! ;D ;D

[Guest]

Baths planned for tomorrow.

    The only birds showing any signs of infestation were birds recently bought in (only a mild lice problem, which as we know, will become worse if untreated)

      The birds are clean now, so at least I know double strength works! ;D ;D

 

Why don't you just ivomec them then you can just forget about it?

[GROVEHOMER]

I  wanted to go through all the birds and especially the loft structure with the new breeding season not too far away.

[Guest]

   Does anyone know the active ingredients of Chlorocarb?..I dipped birds in the same strength solution as I sprayed the loft out with, the dip solution should've been half the strength of the loft spray, I've been a bit worried that I could've harmrd the birds in some way. :

 

i i used the same solution to spray the loft did so for years on harm done

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

Why don't you just ivomec them then you can just forget about it?

 

well thats one way of doing it

[Elvan Willgrass]

Ivomec does not worlk with quill mite. When doing my birds with it I have thought I would rid them of everything but not so the quill mite always stayed put, in fact I have found the cheapest product Easitox at £4.99 to be the best for feather lice but no good for quill mite. I was able to buy some Chlorcarb at the NEHU show last weekend £5 for 25g, one stall told me it had been off the market for two years so I went to another and they had it.      

[jimmy_84]

Hi every1 read a thread on mites and was wondering how to get rid of them 1 way suggested was garlic in bath water how should i do it should i get a garlic and crush it into water or can you buy garlic water i noticed it on a 1 YB in the nest it is covered in feather mites. Also does any1 know if the mites eat away at feathers or do i also have a problem with feather rot and if so how do i treat that please help with any advice need to sort this out as only just got the birds and they are older birds and have paired up due to lay soon and i want to sort out the problems before they hatch out any young