what strain of bird did u buy and why

[just ask me]

simple question really did u buy because of the strain or the results  where the flyer was living what do people look for  is really the question  

[Guest]

simple question really did u buy because of the strain or the results  where the flyer was living what do people look for  is really the question  

ask me again in 2 years time ....... see if i made the right choice .       andy.

 

 

[just ask me]

ask me again in 2 years time ....... see if i made the right choice .       andy.

 

 

know what u mean only one way to tell the basket  

[Guest bakes]

bought in some maurice delbar cross's hopeing to start a small family of them mainly for 300 to 500 mile races wouldnt mind a few alfons bowens for the longer distances or some dezmand mattis (spelling)

 

all the best.

[Guest]

The SILVER SHADOWS because they put a   on your face on saturday

[Guest bakes]

The SILVER SHADOWS because they put a   on your face on saturday

 

very nice birds mate silver shadows do like vanloons

 

all the best.

[john@formula 1 lofts]

Thw 3 main things in mind when we look at new family of pigeons is firstly they must be from someone who is winning in good competition for a number of years. Secondly and probably most important is there are winning for others in many areas. And thirdly they were winning the types of races and over the same type of terrain as ours would have to race over.

 

John

[Guest]

Well,Well that will include the SHADOWS

[fred smyth]

Staff vanreet cos there the dogs xxxxx.

[Guest]

Staff vanreet cos there the dogs xxxxx.

  8)I must say i have only one pair of these,and have produced winners in there first nest,i liked them so i bought them gifted them to friends :'( :X

 

 

[cemetary]

Staff vanreet cos there the dogs xxxxx.

 

Mind mines for next year Fred,  

[fred smyth]

 

Mind mines for next year Fred,  

 

what

[Chris Little]

Alfons Bauwens direct and of Geoff Kirkland.

 

Bauwens results from Barcelona were brilliant, he was called 'the man with the small basket'

 

These are best birds we have owned

 

[Guest Owen]

I think that john @ formula 1 lofts has said the most sense that I have heard on here for a long time. He deals with performance to select birds. What else is there? There has never been a pure Staff van Reet and there never will be. What there is, or has been, is a loft of pigeons managed by Staff van Reet. From the moment they leave his loft they will be managed by someone else and will change.

The idea of strains is the biggest con ever. If someone wants to win long distance races then they should breed from pigeons that have proven themselves to be capable of doing it. Regardless of where they come from.

The only people who benefit from the idea of strains are the Dealers and Studs. They will tell you anything to get you to buy.

 

[chichichi]

we buy all strains and test them to the limit.. the best tsrains to get are the up and coming ones,, so get in first and get their best.. once they start to win big the prices go through the roof.. went to luc van hoecke in 2005 and paid £30 a bird.. you won't get now for under £150 ..

 

the best strain we have ever bought was the van reets,, we bought these as they are winning all over the country and into different areas..

 

ant

[chrisbonnie]

louis coormeans

 

staf van reets

 

and Karel Broeks(not sur eif the spelling is right)

 

come back to me in a year and ill see how they`re doing

[Guest JPH]

I think that john @ formula 1 lofts has said the most sense that I have heard on here for a long time. He deals with performance to select birds. What else is there? There has never been a pure Staff van Reet and there never will be. What there is, or has been, is a loft of pigeons managed by Staff van Reet. From the moment they leave his loft they will be managed by someone else and will change.

The idea of strains is the biggest con ever. If someone wants to win long distance races then they should breed from pigeons that have proven themselves to be capable of doing it. Regardless of where they come from.

The only people who benefit from the idea of strains are the Dealers and Studs. They will tell you anything to get you to buy.

your right mate good and bad in all pigeons, to much emphasis on van this and van that. you just want good honest pigeons regardless of the breeders name. best to best and breed your own van  ;)winners

 

 

[Guest cloudview]

i got the dordins back ten years ago now after having them in the early eighties , from a local fancier who has had them from  1968 , with very few introductions  ,now the reasons why i went back to the dordins  beauty , intelligent looking , brilliant feather quality , good eyes if your into that theory , and they will win hard or easy races right out to pau .

and one big deciding factor was the amount he sends to nationals and gets them ,8 is abig team to him , plus never seen ,at his place or mine an antibiotic in their lives .

them type of birds are very hard to find nowadays

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

the last strain i brought in was the de meyers but i will have to tell you later if it was a good buy or not even thow they look the dogs danglys lol

[Guest Owen]

Dordin selected his birds by buying birds from others. His overriding condition was that the pigeons had to be calm. He would not tolerate nervious or wild pigeons. Hence the name Maison Patience, the name of his house. There was never such a thing as a pure Dordin, they were an amalgam of pigeons he bought in. Dordin was a very keen progeny tester and went to great lengths to make sure that he only bred from the best. Although noted for his big powder blues, some of his most successful pigeons were in fact a variety of colours and in some cases quite small.

Dordin has been dead a very long time now, and there have been a great number of generations of pigeons carrying his name, bred, and more importantly selected by others. And bearing in mind, that there will be a wide and varying view on what is meant by selection, the pigeons will probably bear little resemblance to the originals. At least as far as performace is concerned.  

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

my birds are all Van Den Drysdale and its only me who has them cause I dont sell them I gift them as heinz 57 cause you never know what your getting no such thing as a pure strain now.

 

But thats just my opinion

[Guest pigeon82]

you do not have to buy pigeons to get good results i have not bought a pigeon in  my loft i have various results in club fed sect this year my secretary says its not just the birds its what you do with them i have had ybs given to me bred by my dad but down threw a stray she has got me 2 1st clubs this year and other positions in the club also fed positions so it goes to show you dont have to have the best of birds you got to work with them to get your results

[terry mccarthy]

vanreets and silver shadows plus a few janseens vanreets win no matter wat the weather silver shadows like a real hard day janseens a good steady pigeon

[Guest cloudview]

Dordin selected his birds by buying birds from others. His overriding condition was that the pigeons had to be calm. He would not tolerate nervious or wild pigeons. Hence the name Maison Patience, the name of his house. There was never such a thing as a pure Dordin, they were an amalgam of pigeons he bought in. Dordin was a very keen progeny tester and went to great lengths to make sure that he only bred from the best. Although noted for his big powder blues, some of his most successful pigeons were in fact a variety of colours and in some cases quite small.

Dordin has been dead a very long time now, and there have been a great number of generations of pigeons carrying his name, bred, and more importantly selected by others. And bearing in mind, that there will be a wide and varying view on what is meant by selection, the pigeons will probably bear little resemblance to the originals. At least as far as performace is concerned.  

 

fullyagree with you owen ,dordin if alive today would probably not have anything in his team related to them of years gone by  , but when asked what birds are you flying keeping etc etc , dordin or any other strain name is only a reference or guide if you like as to what type of pigeon is your preference, tome what dordin put together all them years ago , suits me , they are what i like for distance racing . so i suppose they are my strain now which would be  goldstraw.s , but 9 out of 10 fanciers would say who the heck is he , so dordin is just the origin

[Tony C]

Gaby Vandenabeele's..... coz they do exactly what is says on the tin.