please help!!!

[crazy pigeon boy]

hi all i need some help my friend has got a problem with his young birds he has noticed that there are 1 or 2 that are looking a little hunched up and have dark green wet droppings and are losing weight he has never had this problem as he has only been in the sport for 2 years and i have told him to disenfect his loft and drinkers remove the birds that are affected but due to me not being in the sport all that long i dont really know what it is they have appart from the droppings and weight loss the seem to be in good health they are eating well cany you please help cheers  :-/  :-/

 

p.s. can you tell me what is trichomoniasis and hexamitiasis he asked me this and i did not know

[jimmy white]

first one ...canker

second one type of worm infecting intestines

 

i would tell you rfreind to make sure everything is clean and disenfcted, then treat for cocci , worms and canker ,,, hope things improve

[Guest j v ward]

treat with coxoid

[peterpau]

first one ...canker

second one type of worm infecting intestines

 

i would tell you rfreind to make sure everything is clean and disenfcted, then treat for cocci , worms and canker ,,, hope things improve

Yea I'd go with this. Treat for one thing at a time. Worms week one Canker the following week and Cocci the week after that. Cider vinegar in the water tablespoon per drinker three days a week. Garlic 2 or 3 days a week.  Treat the lot.             Best o' luck.  

 

[Guest]

" .... appart from the droppings and weight loss the seem to be in good health they are eating well" ...

 

This puzzles me. If the youngster was ill, I'd expect it to stop eating & drinking too. Has your friend an experienced fancier who could come by and have a look at the birds? Isolate, clean & disinfect are always the best start, but a second opinion from someone who has seen the birds might help identify if there is a problem, and what treatment, if any, is required.

 

[mosslands1]

go to tesco/s and buy a box of washing soda crystals select a piece as big as a tic bean and put it down the birds throat  it will clear out any disease in the birds stomace and also flushes out the crop . its a digestion problem he/s got

[mosslands1]

sorry i forgot to say that if you look at the droppings closely you will find they are slimy berfore treatment that is

[Guest]

;Dgood "old hand "type treatment , cheap and available , i had forgotten about this one ? thanks again Peter ................................            andy

[Diamond dave]

Hi Mosslands

I am intrigued by your soda crystal tip - never heard of this one  - I use soda crystals as a cleaning agent and to neutralise certain acids so I'm guessing that it would make sense in the right dosage i.e tic been size. Are you suggesting this for the canker element or the worms element. Does it make the birds sick?

[Guest]

go to tesco/s and buy a box of washing soda crystals select a piece as big as a tic bean and put it down the birds throat  it will clear out any disease in the birds stomace and also flushes out the crop . its a digestion problem he/s got

 

brought back a few memories there lad last time i used that stuff it was at the dog track which are non exsistent now and was only used to make the dogs regurgitate what they ate never for the like of me thought on givong it to pigeons ,then again you learn something new every day ,good tip ;D ;D ;D

[Lightning McQueen]

Keep a watchful eye on what/where they pecking about when in garden, could be slugs, certain types of flowers etc

 

Isolate, treat with "old hands Going Light" and keep a watchful eye on others..

 

Cider vinegar/Adherb/Gemthepax type products will certainly help

 

Hope things improve...

[Guest]

hi all i need some help my friend has got a problem with his young birds he has noticed that there are 1 or 2 that are looking a little hunched up and have dark green wet droppings and are losing weight he has never had this problem as he has only been in the sport for 2 years and i have told him to disenfect his loft and drinkers remove the birds that are affected but due to me not being in the sport all that long i dont really know what it is they have appart from the droppings and weight loss the seem to be in good health they are eating well cany you please help cheers  :-/  :-/

 

p.s. can you tell me what is trichomoniasis and hexamitiasis he asked me this and i did not know

IF ITS POSSIBLE SEND THE DROPPINGS AWAY TO GET TESTED look in the homing world loads there everyone is giving you good advice but they are experienced your not look to c who tests the droppings

 

[Guest slugmonkey]

You also might try a sulfa based product such as sulfamed or European 4 in 1 I have had good luck treating YB's with loose droppings with both of these

[Guest]

Giving the bird washing soda crystals runs contrary to every other treatment in which the stated aim has been to turn the gut slightly acidic, which we are told is a hostile environment for most of the stuff thats causing the bother.

 

Washing Soda is an alkiline. Surely by creating an even more alkiline environment we only help out the stuff that caused the bother in the first place?

 

 

[mosslands1]

hiya bruno and all the other people who are asking how and why this works / well its simple it cleans out the crop and gut of everything so enabling the birds to start again and build up its own defences against nasty bacteria lots of good flyers years ago used to give it to the birds on return from races just in case they picked any bugs from other birds when they were in the basket / the doseage is crude /the size of a tic bean / but thats the easyest way to tell you the amount . after putting it in their  throat hold there heads up by holding their beak so as to make sure they swallow it . a lump in their drinkers  helps . try it and post results on here

[Ronnie]

Cocci worm problem.

The birds will eat as normal but because of the worm eating the gut lining it will effectively starve the pigeon.(Going light).Treat for coccidiosis then as mentioned before ,garlic and apple cider vinegar through the week .

[Simeon Turner]

I agree with SAMMY, get the droppings tested before you do anything - do not just treat blindly for this, that and the other, get them tested to tell you what the real problem is and what you should treat with.....

 

In the long run you will save money doing it this way and elimate the problem that is there, not something that may or may not exist...

 

The pigeon weeklys have a number who advertise and will get the results to you the next day.

[Roland]

hiya bruno and all the other people who are asking how and why this works / well its simple it cleans out the crop and gut of everything so enabling the birds to start again and build up its own defences against nasty bacteria lots of good flyers years ago used to give it to the birds on return from races just in case they picked any bugs from other birds when they were in the basket / the doseage is crude /the size of a tic bean / but thats the easyest way to tell you the amount . after putting it in their  throat hold there heads up by holding their beak so as to make sure they swallow it . a lump in their drinkers  helps . try it and post results on here

 

Well have to say, and grateful as it's is of benefit - that this is completely new to me. Never heard of it, and it has a lot of sound basis in it. I will have to try this also on appropiate needs. Thanks mucker... Ps I come across Soda most day in our houyse too...

Thanks again, much appeciated.

 

[Roland]

Uh Bruno, and like when one pops a Wood Lice - sow pig - or whatever you call it, the arguements start about  grouse and they pecking them up and the wood lice laying eggs etc.. Yes they do, but in pigeons they clear any and most things, and if the bird is infected they get coughed up 2- 3 times as big in the bird splatters. So they also do a good job. Like the 'Garden lime' being a great agent for Ecoli... Tell you what, it doesn't happen, and is also a great preventive to any Y/B's sickness. Ok ay so it should work.... but it does!

[Roland]

Uh Bruno, and like when one pops a Wood Lice - sow pig - or whatever you call it, the arguements start about  grouse and them pecking them up and the wood lice laying eggs etc.. Yes they do, but in pigeons they clear any and most things, and if the bird is infected they get coughed up 2- 3 times as big in the bird splatters. So they also do a good job. Like the 'Garden lime' being a great agent for Ecoli... Tell you what, it doesn't happen, and is also a great preventive to any Y/B's sickness. Ok ay so it should work.... but it does!

 

Yes just pop one down it's throat, they clean away every nasty like.

[Guest]

I'm sure there are much safer remedies. Can vaguely remember a railway accident, when container(s) of Soda Ash ended up in the river; cleaned the river of all its fish. The railway was also fined for polluting that waterway.