frank-123 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 where did his bird orgin come from sure he won a national in 19 8....? did he time a barless blue? has anyone done anything with this bloodline?
nogin Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 where did his bird orgin come from sure he won a national in 19 8....? did he time a barless blue? has anyone done anything with this bloodline? I THINK IT CAME FROM MATT COWAN OF SALTCOATS. 8)
frank-123 Posted September 4, 2009 Author Report Posted September 4, 2009 I THINK IT CAME FROM MATT COWAN OF SALTCOATS. 8) was it a barless blue or a meally he timed to win the national and did cowan breed the national winner for matt white?
nogin Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 was it a barless blue or a meally he timed to win the national and did cowan breed the national winner for matt white? I THINK IT WAS A MEALY, BUT I'LL FIND OUT ONE OF OUR MEMBERS USED TO FLY IN SALTCOATS. 8)
Delboy Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 where did his bird orgin come from sure he won a national in 19 8....? did he time a barless blue? has anyone done anything with this bloodline? 1980 he won Rennes with, I think, a red hen ???? :-/
Guest ROCKYandRAMBO Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 how do you breed a barless blue
nogin Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 how do you breed a barless blue BLACKS AND MEALY'S I WOULD THINK :-/
Kyleakin Lofts Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 Ian Noble of Ayrshire has them. I think they originated in USA and are genetically modified, but he has the info.
nogin Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 Ian Noble of Ayrshire has them. I think they originated in USA and are genetically modified, but he has the info. ORGANIC ONE'S FOR ME.
sammy Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 1980 he won Rennes with, I think, a red hen ???? :-/ quite sure it was amealy hen del and was named scotch queen they also won rennes way back with a grizzle cock called scotch king
pjc Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 BLACKS AND MEALY'S I WOULD THINK :-/ that will produce barless strawberry mealys but the blues were very clean with no sign of any bar from what i can remember.
Guest phillip Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 Sounds very interesting . Does anybody by chance have any photo,s of these birds . How often will this colour occur out of how many attempts should one try this ? How do these birds perform during races or is it for Pigeon shows .
Guest JPH Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 quite sure it was amealy hen del and was named scotch queen they also won rennes way back with a grizzle cock called scotch king yes it was a mealy hen , dont think the barrless ones did much
sammy Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 yes it was a mealy hen , dont think the barrless ones did much more than sure he just bred these barless blues and never raced them
Delboy Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 yes it was a mealy hen , dont think the barrless ones did much Strawberry mealy, I think ;D
Taylorsloft Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 how do you breed a barless blue You get a normal blue and pluck off the bars
Guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 Barless is an allele of chequer and bar and is recessive to both. The true barless cannot be produced by crossing other colours and patterns i.e. mealy and black, the "barless" produced from this mating is spread ash-red, also called "lavender", and is not genetically barless. To breed barless blue pigeons a barless blue is required; first cross blue bar x barless will produce barred young, these will all carry barless. Mating two of these carriers together will produce approximately 25% barless; barless to barless-carrier will produce approximately 50% barless. Alternatively if a pure (homozygous) chequer is used in the first cross, the resultant young would be chequer carrying barless, these then mated to blue bars would breed blue bars and blue chequers, all the blue bars would carry barless, as would some of the chequers, but a percentage of the chequers would carry bar. Mate the blue bars together and 25% barless are produced.
pjc Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 Barless is an allele of chequer and bar and is recessive to both. The true barless cannot be produced by crossing other colours and patterns i.e. mealy and black, the "barless" produced from this mating is spread ash-red, also called "lavender", and is not genetically barless. To breed barless blue pigeons a barless blue is required; first cross blue bar x barless will produce barred young, these will all carry barless. Mating two of these carriers together will produce approximately 25% barless; barless to barless-carrier will produce approximately 50% barless. If a pure (homozygous) chequer is used in the first cross, the resultant young would be chequer carrying barless, one of these then mated to a blue would breed blue bars and blue chequers, all the blue bars would carry barless, as would some of the chequers, but a percentage of the chequers would carry bar. Mate the blue bars together and 25% barless are produced. are they sex linked as most ressecives are?
Guest JPH Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 more than sure he just bred these barless blues and never raced them just sold em ;D ;D
sammy Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 just sold em ;D ;D much did yi get for them ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D has massarella not got the barless mealys in the pharoh long distance pigeons
Guest JPH Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 much did yi get for them ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D has massarella not got the barless mealys in the pharoh long distance pigeonsno matt just sold them ;D ;D bit of a novelty although if i remember correctly in one of his adds he did say that a barless had won a race for someone ??) ??)
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