bobtail Posted October 2, 2008 Author Report Posted October 2, 2008 thanks to every one best see the vet in the morning
Tony C Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 Whereabouts are you bobtail. Someone might be able to recommend a good vet near you, sounds as if you’ve got to move fast on this one.
frank-123 Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 let us know how you get on hope it gets better quickly
OLDYELLOW Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 id see a vet 100 % but if there been poisoned via there corn then best to check there corn , sometimes when safflower and sunflower seeds arent stored right they go mouldy internaly and this can kill your birds so storing corn in a dry place free from damp is a must, the seeds look visabily ok but are mouldy internaly
DOVEScot Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 he asked for any idea's that's all people are doing giving idea's/opinions nothing wrong with that but you are correct i would get to a vet asap Your right, I just find it odd when the only symptom is the birds dying fast and wet droppings we guess the illness when the only sure way is to get it tested as soon as possible :-/
jimmy white Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 could be a few things,, i would say vet a s a p ,[,live one for them to use as pm ,or feshly died one.or both]
jimmy_bulger Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 i think the guy asked to see if there was anything he could do, to slow or stop this till he gets to the vet.
OLDYELLOW Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 im trying to get there normaly black minerals will stabilise there guts or crushed charcoal on corn with yoghurt if poisioned , but if the corn is the source wont help putting anything on it
van Roberts Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 sorry to hear your birds are dying. you hav'nt had mice or rats about soiling in your pigeon food ?just a idea
Guest red67 Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 get them, checked m8 sounds bad hope you dont lose too heavily, i had paratyphoid in the loft about 2.5 year ago an it near enough wiped me out, best of luck
Guest pigeon82 Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 my dad had this problem at beginning of the season he took them to a vet who soon cured it thats wats prob best for you mate
terry mccarthy Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 streppticocci bovis i bet its rife drink a lot of water droppings go from mush to water and a lot of it then slime green birds weight falls off in no time they start to hunch then drop dead
Novice Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 im trying to get there normaly black minerals will stabilise there guts or crushed charcoal on corn with yoghurt if poisioned , but if the corn is the source wont help putting anything on it Black minerals are always worth a try till he can get a proper diagnosis. Good advice.
terry mccarthy Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 and thats in 24 to 48 hours that birds are effected
Guest strapper Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 one thing no ones commented on........YOUNGBIRD SICKNESS KILLS OLDBIRDS TOO!...though poss a bit late now as this usually peaks in june/july. bobtail..can u tell me if birds droppings are dark and runny,with dark string like droppings? u mentioned drinking excessive, salmonela and paramyxo are very similar and BOTH have symptoms which are ecessive drinking. there are several others but uve stated that birds are dying?...so that cuts out several possiblities. most important advice uve had and u should TAKE it!....get them tested by a vet A.S.A.P. dont wait ...tomorrow morning ......let us know how u get on.
just ask me Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 streppticocci bovis i bet its rife drink a lot of water droppings go from mush to water and a lot of it then slime green birds weight falls off in no time they start to hunch then drop dead my first thought too usually with para other ailments there are some symptoms so streppticocci bovis is a good bet as it seems it really coming to the fore the last few months
the pigeon_milker Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 sorry to here about your birds
shalis lofts Posted October 3, 2008 Report Posted October 3, 2008 any news on the birds m8 terry might be right i had it about 2 years ago lost 40 + birds every time i opened the loft there would be another pigeon dead on the floor with like a big wet patch around it sent swabs to vet found out streptacocci i had ybs in nest checked them out ready for weaning next day looked perfect went in next day dead in box the said caused by either rats mice running through lofts dropping s**t every where then pigeon eats the S**t gos to the drinker and passes it to the rest of flock he cured it withen 24 hours cost me £60.00 for medicene vet said more like rats than mice probaly hope everything works out m8 yours in sport shalis lofts
john@formula 1 lofts Posted October 3, 2008 Report Posted October 3, 2008 call Ian Cameron from Manor court vets in chesire a pigeon fancier and a top vet number is 01829740639 as others have said it sounds like circovirus and i have heard there is hell of a lot of it about at the moment. they will need some sort of Antibiotic Ian will test which is the best one for this outbreak as it seems to differ from strain to strain. but get on to thgis asap as it will kill a lot of them from what i have been told. hope this helps John
terry mccarthy Posted October 3, 2008 Report Posted October 3, 2008 if it is streppicocci bovis treatment is either amoxcillian or ampicillian nothing else will touch it u be surprised that how many lofts have it at the moment when i say its rife i really do mean that best get a dead bird to vets for post mortem to no for sure and ask wat treatment while birds being tested to be on safe side baytrill and sulfurs will do nothing just make it worse
OLDYELLOW Posted October 3, 2008 Report Posted October 3, 2008 most microbacteria are spectrum specific thats why its better to go and seek advice from a vet as if treating blindly with wrong antibiotic your can make things worse as the bacteria will accelerate as its not been actively fought
john@formula 1 lofts Posted October 3, 2008 Report Posted October 3, 2008 call Ian Cameron from Manor court vets in chesire a pigeon fancier and a top vet number is 01829740639 as others have said it sounds like circovirus and i have heard there is hell of a lot of it about at the moment. they will need some sort of Antibiotic Ian will test which is the best one for this outbreak as it seems to differ from strain to strain. but get on to thgis asap as it will kill a lot of them from what i have been told. hope this helps John
Guest IB Posted October 3, 2008 Report Posted October 3, 2008 When birds are dying daily from an unknown cause then its got way beyond the stage of asking members what might be the root cause. You need to get to a vet ASAP and I'm pleased you are doing that today. In the meantime try and seperate sickly-looking birds from the rest - and I think culling them is the best option here (bar one perhaps, for euthanising for autopsy). You need to clean and disinfect everything. A drinking water steriliser would also be a must.
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