what do i treat for first ?

[DJ]

hiya      in what order do u treat for canker,worms and coccidiosis ? im a novice and would appreciate any advice    debbie   :)

[Wiley]

id get a swab and dropping test done first, and then you will find out what you should treat for. Makes sure the test also covers samonella and e.coli also

[Roland]

Trichno treats for all three at same time with one treat. Rhiendfends or however it's spelt.

Frank Bristow is an agent for them.... and others, just ak on jere. Good luck

[jimmy white]

the way i do it debbie is treat 5 days with coxoid first , then a day with vits in water , then pop a canker pill down their throat, again vits in the water afterwards ,,then worm them lastly ,,there are many treatments now that treat many things at once , but in my opinion this is a bit much for the birds ,,but the choice is yours    good luck

[DJ]

thanks to wiley,roland and jim for the info, ive got some coxedex powder to treat for cocci and chevi-col for the canker so i will treat in that order and that just leaves the worming til last  ive had a few strays in my loft and thought its better to be

safe then sorry? can u still treat if u have young in the nest?

                              debbie

[Wiley]

hi debbie its adviced not to, but i read about a fancier who used to canker his birds with young in the nest few days before weaning and believed they had natural immunity from then on

[Guest slugmonkey]

I spray for mites , then worm, canker/cocci 3 weeks before race and again week before with respitory in between

probiotic and cider vinegar whole time

always checking for mites

[DJ]

hi, ive not treated my birds for anything this year and after looking them over i havnt found anything more sinister then the odd lice and some of their droppings are a bit loose but apart from that they are all looking and eating well   im treating as ive had more then my fair share of strays this year and one stray actually died overnight?   im going to de-lice them all and also treat for worms,cocci and canker but dont know what to treat for first?  any advice would be appreciated

                                       debbie  :-/

[Guest TAMMY_1]

hi, ive not treated my birds for anything this year and after looking them over i havnt found anything more sinister then the odd lice and some of their droppings are a bit loose but apart from that they are all looking and eating well   im treating as ive had more then my fair share of strays this year and one stray actually died overnight?   im going to de-lice them all and also treat for worms,cocci and canker but dont know what to treat for first?  any advice would be appreciated

                                       debbie  :-/

 

would start with canker first, cocci ad then worms.

[me]

hi, ive not treated my birds for anything this year and after looking them over i havnt found anything more sinister then the odd lice and some of their droppings are a bit loose but apart from that they are all looking and eating well   im treating as ive had more then my fair share of strays this year and one stray actually died overnight?   im going to de-lice them all and also treat for worms,cocci and canker but dont know what to treat for first?  any advice would be appreciated

                                       debbie  :-/

 

 

At this time of year treat for absolutely nothing if you can get away with it. My advice would be get a mixture of droppings tested and if your vet advises treating for anything do it, if not leave it for a month or so if possible. Let them finish the moult in peace if at all possible. Keep them clean and dry with good ventilation and no draughts and watch them "fly" next year.

 

All the best.

 

 

[Mark Bulled]

I would agree with "ME".

 

If their are no immediate problems get them through the moult first. Then get the droppings tested and treat accordingly.

 

Also do not entertain strays at anytime. If you do need to house them stick them in a spare box and loose asap

[Guest]

Agree on all counts: birds in middle of moult and should be left alone; if its not broke don't fix it - treat only for things that you've definitely got, diagnosed thro a droppings test; and don't let strange birds [strays or even new introductions] have free access to your own birds.

[REDCHEQHEN]

I think you've all forgotten that Debbie started out with strays

[FOXY]

I think you've all forgotten that Debbie started out with strays

 

Think if you look back you will see that she stated that she had more than her fair share of strays in this year, but was talking about treating her own birds.

[Wiley]

foxy, redcheqhen is right in this case, debbie did start out with strays

[FOXY]

foxy, redcheqhen is right in this case, debbie did start out with strays

 

You must obviously know her, because I was just going by what was in her post and it never said she started out with strays.

[DJ]

hi all,thanx 4 all your replies, as redcheqhen says i did start with strays when one decided to make my garden shed his new home,he then dissappeared for a few days before coming back and has been here ever since with other strays that have since arrived, only two fanciers wanted their birds back out of approx 20 and with them breeding ive now got some 50 odd birds that are rung with my own rpra rings

                              debbie

[REDCHEQHEN]

hi all,thanx 4 all your replies, as redcheqhen says i did start with strays when one decided to make my garden shed his new home,he then dissappeared for a few days before coming back and has been here ever since with other strays that have since arrived, only two fanciers wanted their birds back out of approx 20 and with them breeding ive now got some 50 odd birds that are rung with my own rpra rings

                              debbie

 

 

 

Didn't know you had that many now  :B :B :B

They're not all in the shed are they?   :o

 

You need to separate the sexes Debbie

[DJ]

hi redcheq      i originally had my 8x6ft garden shed when i got my first stray in but since then ive had another 8x6ft shed joined onto it so its now 16ftx6ft  ive also had box and v perches put in and also some nestboxes so all the birds at least have their own perch or nestboxes   im replacing their eggs with plastic ones to keep the numbers down as ive ended up with way more birds then i ever expected but i wouldnt be without a single one of them  luckily my neighbours are great but then they always come straight in from excercise when i shake the corn tin and they dont hang around on the rooftops all day  its been a learning curve but ive enjoyed every minute since the first stray arrived apart from the attacks that im now getting from the hawks  anyway thanks again for all the help/info from fanciers on pb       take care         debbie

[Guest]

Think Redchqhen is right Debbie, you need to seperate the cocks & hens and give them a bit of a break from breeding, know you're using plastic eggs but pairs will still rise and lay again ... all thro winter.

[DJ]

yeh thanx 4 that bruno  im waiting for a friend to put a wire partition in the centre of the loft so the cocks/hens can be seperated  

                                                             debbie  

[blackjack]

Hello all my birds get is the jab and a wormer if required i only treat individually  and cull any signs of weakness.

[WulDon]

... treat for nowt just now whether they are strays or not, anything showing signs of strain or weakness eliminate immediately... then get droppings tested if all clear leave well alone, with having a lot of pigeons from a lot of different sources and they are all keeping well you could well have a good high natural immunity, do not lower/destroy this with treating blind as this is when your trouble could start... dont fix what aint broken!

[DOVEScot]

... treat for nowt just now whether they are strays or not, anything showing signs of strain or weakness eliminate immediately... then get droppings tested if all clear leave well alone, with having a lot of pigeons from a lot of different sources and they are all keeping well you could well have a good high natural immunity, do not lower/destroy this with treating blind as this is when your trouble could start... dont fix what aint broken!

 

When you say weakness, what do you determine as weakness, We have a collection of fancy pigeons but Cabin Boy has some racers which he hopes to start racing with next year so do you mean any signs of weakness?

 

[jimmy white]

yeh thanx 4 that bruno  im waiting for a friend to put a wire partition in the centre of the loft so the cocks/hens can be seperated  

                                                             debbie  

 

excactly the same as me debbie ;D ;D ;D  16 by 6 loft waiting on chap fitting section  ;D ;D ;D  hint hint ;D ;D ;D   and lining on floor ;D ;D   good luck with the birds  [well see who gets their partition first ;D ;D]