Ventilation

[debonair]

Now which is worse? Being a smoker or having PFL?

 

Mick, the same thing happens to me, I have symptoms during winter when I am not with the pigeons very often. During summer, I get some cough in the morning when I wake up but that's all.

[jimmy white]

sorry ,p,,h just noticed your post , yes i very much like plenty fresh air flowing round the loft at the mo i dont race them ,but have an 8by6 loft with an 8 by 6 aviarythe door of the loft is open all day [wire doors on it]sputick and vents on front also, with open window at side to the aviary , the aviary has a perspex roof and a wooden back where the box perches are , the side where the perches are is wooden , but the front, and part of the side are wide open , but there is no dampness where the birds perch, some of them prefer to perch their in the dead of winter , so theres plenty of fresh air , havent had any ailments in a long long while ;D ;D

[Guest Paulo]

Wear a mask when you clean out and no problem

[dave]

my birds live in aviary 6x6 with roof and open all sides also wire floor no problems with health they stay out in all weather only come in to be feed then put back out

[Guest]

my birds live in aviary 6x6 with roof and open all sides also wire floor no problems with health they stay out in all weather only come in to be feed then put back out

 

it that where you go when the mrs throws you out ;D ;D ;D

[dave]

no alberts his fridge is allways full off beer

[TERRY JOHNSON]

Many years ago I kept a pair of golden pheasants in an aviary approx 20x8x6ft high it had a couple of iron sheets on the roof one end & straw bales for the pheasants to nest & hide in, there were a couple of pole pearches under the roof. When I had a racer with a cold etc I used to put them in there, within a few weeks they were fine again and actually gleaming, just fed on mixed chicken corn. I think todays lofts (mine included) are constructed with the fancier in mind, they are for our comfort & pride & also we think we are doing the best for the birds. As for ventilation you dont need any in an old hands loft the birds live in the fresh air !!. When you think about it whilst bird watching at a reserve---who is the one in the hide ?. Yes if I didnt care about being laughed at by the tiled roof boys it would be an old hands loft for me !!

[debonair]

Good point, Terry. The only thing I'm afraid of, is snow, some snow storms might disturb the pigeons in such a loft. The roof and some other protecting areas should be very well developed. I also think about having a wooden area going round the middle of loft's walls, just as tall as fitting 2-3 nestboxes in a column. While the top and bottom of the loft remain wire mesh, plus the floor grill, the ventilation is the same.

[stevebelbin]

Seeing the difference in the condition of my birds when they have been left in the aviary it does make me think there better off outside. They seem to condition better and I think they do better in hard nose end racers as they are used to being out in the cold. I had my loft heated last year and Ive never lost so many birds in head-wind racers as I have this year. No more heating for mine, just stuck out in the aviary during the day with a bath :-)

[rlez]

put it this way

the birds dont know if you spent a small fortune or whether you spent nothing on your loft,they dont care what design it is or what its made of its us fanciers who make the decision down to our own personal choice. they will race or home to anything just as long as you create a happy home for them.all the birds need is a home,corn/water a mate and company of its own kind nothin else.its we fanciers who complicate everything.

les

[Ronnie]

How would you race widowhoods in this kind of loft , i've allways been led to believe that the cocks are not meant to see the hens until basketing time.

I'm still new to the sport but i do like the idea of racing to an aviary instead of a loft.

[Roland]

I would race them to the trees over hanging my loft if I could trap them lol

[stanley]

Can anyone help me out.

 

I dont seem to be able to get the correct ventilation in my widowhood loft. I have a tiled roof - apex loft, where should the air come in - bottom or top? and where should it escape?

 

 

[Guest]

Can anyone help me out.

 

I dont seem to be able to get the correct ventilation in my widowhood loft. I have a tiled roof - apex loft, where should the air come in - bottom or top? and where should it escape?

 

 

PM TAMMY HE IS THE EXPERT ;D ;D

[DOVEScot]

Can anyone help me out.

 

I dont seem to be able to get the correct ventilation in my widowhood loft. I have a tiled roof - apex loft, where should the air come in - bottom or top? and where should it escape?

 

 

I thought one of the main reasons was for foul air/gases to escape, then gas collects in roof spaces, otherwise a flow of fresh air through the loft

Wet/damp air comes generally from the southwest and cold air comes mainly from notheast neither of which you want

Setting mines low in the south east and high in the north west

Also I have made solid panels/vents interchangeable, so I can swap vents and blank panels as it is our larger loft, so experimenting with different theories and different times of the year

Very easy to do if building yourself from scratch

You can get smoke testers in a cannister to see air flow or if you smoke

[bewted]

look at "old hand"writings on ventilation,it will more than help you to decide.

 

ted

[jimmy white]

i would say tiled vents in the roof and vents at the bottom back and front , but more to the point in saying good air circulation rather than where the air comes in or out ,, but  very interesting post above with changable vents and different times of they year , and differant weathers etc,

[WulDon]

depends how many pigeons you intend to keep in each section, obviously the less doos less ventilation required but a good circulation where foul air can escape  is paramount

[jimmy white]

in my opinion wull dun is hit the hammer on the nail ,,the less birds ,,the less foul air i,e the less desease i,e better healthier,stronger pigeons ,,,,easier kept as well

[WulDon]

if there is any secret to success then i would say the health of a pigeon and the ventilation go hand in hand... get these two main factors right and your pigeons will defenitely race better, get your system and the feeding right and your pigeons will race faster, get all these pointers put into place and learn how to motivate your birds and you will defo be visiting the prize table!

[stanley]

i have a 20ft x 7 ft loft apex tiled with 20 widowhood cocks in. all the top is netting (open)  apart from 12" over the top of the boxes. Air comes in under the eves at the font of the loft and goes out at the back - or should!!

do i need air coming in at the bottom of the loft??

 

your help is much appreciated.

[Guest]

In basic terms the air is supposed to come in at the bottom at one end of the loft and go out at the top at the other end of the loft.

[Wiley]

In basic terms the air is supposed to come in at the bottom at one end of the loft and go out at the top at the other end of the loft.

 

have to agree with chrissy fresh air should enter at the bottom at the front of the loft, and because air rises the foul air should leave at the top and back of your loft

[Roland]

In basic terms the air is supposed to come in at the bottom at one end of the loft and go out at the top at the other end of the loft.

 

Not really Chrissy, because that would mean it goes straight in, up and out, which would give no circulation whatsoever. The air comes in via say the botom, HITS the  Back of the loft, and and then goes out at the top centre.

Circulation means just that, that the vents should cause the air to circle, thus taking 90 odd percent of the air in the loft, out of the loft whilst giving a constant supply of fresh clean air.

[DOVEScot]

Aye, but you don't want the south westerly winds feeding your loft with damp air or rain blowing into your aviary or doorways

Or the bitter north easterly wind chilling your loft in the winter or blowing snow/sleet into your aviaries or doorways