bewted Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 to all out there in pigeon fancier world,,,,,,,is para a pigeon only disease or not ?
Guest ljb107 Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 no, i think its a form of newcastles disease.
pjc Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 only in name, its very closly related to poultry desease.
carlsberg Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 no it is a variant of newcastle disease in poultry
DOVEScot Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 Snakes can also get it :-/ http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23272
Guest strapper Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 salmonella , as anyone can tell u, has similar symptoms . one sign of para is black stringy poop in water like puddles. this is infact brought on by the kidneys affected., but there are reports that some are experiencing similar symptoms to it but without the so called head twisting ...maybe a new strain developing?
Guest ljb107 Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 salmonella , as anyone can tell u, has similar symptoms . one sign of para is black stringy poop in water like puddles. this is infact brought on by the kidneys affected., but there are reports that some are experiencing similar symptoms to it but without the so called head twisting ...maybe a new strain developing? probably just a mild strain
DOVEScot Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 Water fowl it seems as well http://www.virologyj.com/content/5/1/35
Guest ljb107 Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 i think you can get it in everything
DOVEScot Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 salmonella , as anyone can tell u, has similar symptoms . one sign of para is black stringy poop in water like puddles. this is infact brought on by the kidneys affected., but there are reports that some are experiencing similar symptoms to it but without the so called head twisting ...maybe a new strain developing? Like this
REDCHEQHEN Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 I think people get 'para' mixed up paratyphoid (bacterial) paramyxovirus (virus)
Tony C Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 From DERFA website, highlighted a few species in red The table below lists viruses received from EU countries in 2007, however they were not necessarily isolated during this time period and a small number of viruses may have originated in 2006. The figures in this table do not account for any detection of m gene positives that did not yield haemagglutination viruses after virus isolation. Country Species Type IVPI/lineage H Cleavage Site Seq GB Pigeons/doves PPMV-1 ND/4b RRQKRF - virulent Mallard - PMV-1 ND/1 GKQGRL - avirulent Chickens PMV-1 0.00 - 0.05 GKQGRL - avirulent Chicken PMV-1 0.08/2 GRQGRL - avirulent Mallard - Trapped H1N2 ND/- ND Greylag Goose - Shot H2N9 ND/- ND Mallard - Shot H3N6 ND/- ND Teal - Trapped H3N8 ND/- ND Mallard–farmed game H3N8 ND/- ND Turkeys/Ducks H5N1 3.00/- PQGERRRKKRGLF Avian Report Vol 11 No 4 Oct - Dec 20007 -web.doc Page 9 of 20 Mallard - Shot H5N2 x 2 ND/- PQRETRGLF - LPAI Mallard - Shot H6N2 ND/- ND Mute Swan–dead wild H6N5? tbc ND/- ND Chicken H7N2 ND/- Geese H9N2 ND/- ND Geese H10N2 ND/- ND N.Ireland ? PMV-1 ND/- ? PMV-6 ND/- ND ? H1N1 ND/- ND Mallard x 1 - Trapped Teal x 3 - Trapped H3N8 x 4 ND/- ND ? H6N8 ND/- ND ? H10N7 ND/- ND Portugal Mallard – Farmed Game AI H5N3 ND/- PQRETRGLF - LPAI Estonia Poultry - Layers PMV-1 1.16/4b KRQKRF - virulent Romania Chickens PMV-1 x 20 ND/5d RRQKRF - virulent Chickens PMV-1 x 1 ND/5b RRQRRF - virulent Chickens/Ducks/Cat H5N1 x 7 ND/- PQGERRRKKRGLF HPNAI Cyprus Kestrel PMV-1 ND/2 GRQGRL - avirulent ? PPMV-1 ND/4b RRQKRF - virulent Greece Poultry - broilers PMV-1 ND/2 GRQGRL - avirulent Poultry - broilers PMV-1 1.49/5d RRQKRF - virulent Poland Poultry - Turkeys H5N1 x 2 PQGERRRKKRGLF HPNAI Mallard H3N8 ND/- ND Mallard H4N6 ND/- ND Gull H13N8? tbc ND/- ND Bulgaria Poultry -chickens? PMV-1 ND/5d RRQKRF - virulent Poultry ? PMV-1 ND/ GRQGRL - avirulent Ducks PMV-1 ND/2 GRQGRL - avirulent Mule ducks H4N2 ND/- ND Mule ducks H4N6 ND/- ND Avian Report Vol 11 No 4 Oct - Dec 20007 -web.doc Page 10 of 20 Hungary Geese H5N1 2.92 PQGERRRKKRGLF HPNAI H7N7 PEIPKGRGLF - LPAI Turkey PMV-1 ND/5d RRQKRF - virulent Germany Various 50 x flu tbc Mute swans/ducks/geese H5N1 ND/- PQGERRRKKRGLF HPNAI Czech Rep Swan/Chickens H5N1 ND/- PQGERRRKKRGLF HPNAI France Swan H5N1 ND/- PQGERRRKKRGLF HPNAI Slovenia Mute Swan PMV-1 ND/6 ERQERL - avirulent Yellow legged gull H13N6 ND/- ND Neths Turkey H1N5 ND/- ND Turkey H3N8 ND/- ND Turkey H6N5 ND/- ND Swans and chicken H7N7 ND/- PEIPKGRGLF-LPAI Mallard H8N4 ND/- ND Mallard H10N7 ND/- ND Mallard H10N8 ND/- ND Austria Pigeon PPMV-1 1.04/4b RRKKRF - virulent Seagull H4N6 ND/- ND Mallard H13N8* tbc
Roland Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 There ... Dovescot that picture that you put up is not Para... If it was, must lofts would have been emptied by now.
Guest strapper Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 I think people get 'para' mixed up paratyphoid (bacterial) paramyxovirus (virus) salmonella is another name for paratyphoid. both these as i stated show similar symptoms, ...and funny how both start with the word para.
DOVEScot Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 salmonella is another name for paratyphoid. I think you may be wrong there both these as i stated show similar symptoms, ...and funny how both start with the word para. Naw one starts with Para and the other with Salmo ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest IB Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 Posted this on another thread on paramyxo: I have always understood paramyxo to be a flu-type virus affecting birds. Dr Erhardt Kaleta (who advises the German Homing Union) calls it 'atypical bird flu'. It is actually a family of viruses that affects animals - and humans, and can cause mumps, measles and a type of flu in us too. It is a respiratory illness, and can gain access to the nervous system by that route, as can be seen in Chapter 13 (II) at this link.. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=dij0Vz1SmVAC&pg=PA138&lpg=PA138&dq=paramyxoviridae+family&source=web&ots=fFZI4ndRnK&sig=uedyZ73N-oALyV2iBbktJeEZ0G4&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result
Guest IB Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 I've been puzzled by the 'para' bit too. As a far as I know it has at least two different meanings: (1) like, as in a flu-like illness. and (2) beside, as in an illness following in the footsteps of, or in addition to another illness. Noticed in early AI outbreaks in Europe, some areas also got hit by Newcastle Disease afterwards.
jimbobboy Posted August 29, 2008 Report Posted August 29, 2008 What is Newcastles disease? Thanks jimbobboy
Guest spin cycle Posted August 29, 2008 Report Posted August 29, 2008 i must admit i'm a bit confused. i thought we vaccinated against newcastle disease which is the 'everyday' name for paramixovirus. is this right ?
DOVEScot Posted August 29, 2008 Report Posted August 29, 2008 i must admit i'm a bit confused. i thought we vaccinated against newcastle disease which is the 'everyday' name for paramixovirus. is this right ? As far as I know Newcastle disease is a different strain from paramyxo Maybe it has "para" in front of it because it can be airborne "parachute" "paratrooper" just a wild guess :-/
Tony C Posted August 29, 2008 Report Posted August 29, 2008 Could come from the Greek meaning Par(a)- beside, near (Para) parallel, parameter
DOVEScot Posted August 29, 2008 Report Posted August 29, 2008 Could come from the Greek meaning Par(a)- beside, near (Para) parallel, parameter Or even Parapraxis or Freudian Slip (Fehlleistung) is an error in speech, memory, or physical action that is believed to be caused by the unconscious mind. :)
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