Calcium (milk)

[Guest joshdonlan]

Im wanting to give a few hens some extra calcium as a few eggs havent been up to scratch. They have access to grit all the time, but im not happy with a few eggs. Im thinking of trying a bit of milk in the drinking water. How much to 2 litres of water?

 

Thanks

[wilkins]

use sma baby milk over the food , or break a human calcium pill in 4 and give them a bit every other day

[Guest Taylors Choice]

There is alot of specifically made products to help provide your birds with more Calcium. Take a look here http://pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/search/results.php?s=calcium especially at the calcium syrup.

 

You should be able to find instructions from the manufacturer stating how much should be used.

 

Just let me know if you need more info on anything.

[Flyer]

scrape some cuttlefish over moist corn, also crush some dried chicken egg shells and give it to them.

[greenlands]

Osteocare on feed or in water 2/3 times a week,about £3/4 200ml bottle 2/3 week before they lay.

[phillips]

scrape some cuttlefish over moist corn, also crush some dried chicken egg shells and give it to them.

 

there you go andy this is why i give them cuttle fish pure calcium

[pigeonscout]

Butter Milk

[Guest joshdonlan]

thanks guys, but does anyone how much milk to water ratio?

[Guest IB]

Don't think its as straightforward as feeding extra calcium; its a question of maintaining right balances, in this case between calcium & phosphorus, as too much of one reacts on the other, and these minerals are also involved with Vits A & D: so problem could be a deficiency of any one of these 4. There's also a question of whether the bird could get calcium from this source as they cannot digest milk.

 

The other bit that bothers me is that if there was something working on one or two birds, knocking them off-colour, and egg-laying, then milk might actually make things worse, as it provides the ideal growth environment and food for pathogens like ecoli.

 

It is also said that calcium for the birds eggs comes from a store in the birds leg bone. So if it isn't there in the first place, then maybe its a longer term nutritional balance problem?  

 

Sounds like a job for a full supplement like hormoform (vits & mins).

[Guest joshdonlan]

dont think theres anything wrong with the birds mate, just egg shells were a little thin.

[Steve0]

I've got a hen thats gone of its legs and the 1st thing i thought was calcium its dropping are perfect its lost a little weight but its eyes are bright and its very alert its not laid any eggs tho what do you think?

Steve0...

[pigeonscout]

thanks guys, but does anyone how much milk to water ratio?

I started using butter milk 11 years ago and use it 4 water to one milk.

 

 

[pigeonscout]

I've got a hen thats gone of its legs and the 1st thing i thought was calcium its dropping are perfect its lost a little weight but its eyes are bright and its very alert its not laid any eggs tho what do you think?

Steve0...

 

Ellementals, from old hand will have it back on its feet in hours

 

[Steve0]

Not heard of that bud what is it? I've give it a calcium tab.

 

[Guest]

Hi Josh bit late for this year but for next year when you pair up have oyster shell grit available the only times the hens will eat it is when they are being driven, once they've laid they'll go back to eating conventional grit. The oyster shell grit will help with the quality of egg.

[greenlands]

I started using butter milk 11 years ago and use it 4 water to one milk.

 

 

35p a tub in morrisons,had young birds on it when i started to keep them in after racing(been on darkness)

 

[pigeonscout]

Not heard of that bud what is it? I've give it a calcium tab.

Some times you will get old prisoner stock birds going of their legs and it is caused by a lack of magnesium.

Two of these tabs will have them back up on their feet within a couple of hours.

 

Old Hand's Elementals  

Elementals of Magnesium and Iodine.

I do not want to post a link to another site but if you search for (old hand pigeon) you will find it.

 

 

[Guest bigda]

would this help,  if a bird is not producing the perfect egg  or eggs,  why you want to give it something, it cant find  in the wild, strange  its  a bit like giving them peanuts when in real terms they have no access to them,  as they grow under ground where as wheat ,barley ,corn, to name  a few are accessible to them  so that's what i give them bad eggs   bad birds  never seen bad eggs in a wood pigeons nest like perils

[pigeonscout]

would this help,  if a bird is not producing the perfect egg  or eggs,  why you want to give it something, it cant find  in the wild, strange  its  a bit like giving them peanuts when in real terms they have no access to them,  as they grow under ground where as wheat ,barley ,corn, to name  a few are accessible to them  so that's what i give them bad eggs   bad birds  never seen bad eggs in a wood pigeons nest like perils

 

Our birds do not live in the wild so they do not have access to the things they would find in the wild.

If they did live in the wild they would be nothing more than street or barn birds.

[Guest Vic]

Strange to hear that some of our "cracks" are actually "quacks" when all is said and done.  What's happening to the impregnable lofts these days? A bit late now to treat say I!   Simply not the best, the birds are lacking!  Good Luck to all concerned.  

[Guest bigda]

 

Our birds do not live in the wild so they do not have access to the things they would find in the wild.

If they did live in the wild they would be nothing more than street or barn birds.

 

has the pigeon said to you give me calcium, then tell me this then, why is it only  one hen that has this prob then get rid  if she lays another

[Guest]

 

there you go andy this is why i give them cuttle fish pure calcium

;Dthank you Jas,                    andy.

 

 

[pigeonscout]

 

has the pigeon said to you give me calcium, then tell me this then, why is it only  one hen that has this prob then get rid  if she lays another

 

If I ever hear a pigeon ask me for something it will be time for me to call it a day. Do you think it is harmful to give your pigeons calcium?

 

[Guest bigda]

if the birds goes to the  gully pot and there is oyster shell or grit and it eats it that's fine, but

i have known birds to eat and die from eating  poisonous plants, so  they  can  chose them self  with out us adding  to the  conundrum,   the answer to your question a dont know

[Blue Chequer Pied]

Vitamin D is required for the bird to absorb calcium into the bloodstream. Cod liver oil ( high in vit D ) on the corn prior to pairing along with a calcium supplement should do the trick.

 

Paul.