GREY ON TOUNGE ?????

[Guest gladdo]

A FRIEND OF MINE HAS TOLD ME TO SEE IF I CAN FIND OUT INFO ON THIS .... TWO OF HIS BIRDS HAS A LIKE GREY ON THE EDGE OF THEIR TONGUES ...THE BIRDS ARE FINE HE NEVER HAS ANY PROBLEMS SO HE TELLS ME BUT WHAT COULD THIS BE ???? AND WHAT WOULD CLEAR IT ???? CHEERS ALL ..... MIKEY

[OLDYELLOW]

never come across it guess a swab test to make sure all is ok , he aint feeding black minerals is he ? just a thought

[Guest]

hope this helps.........amanda

Aspergillosis

 

 

Aspergillosis is a fungus disease of birds, animals and humans. It is usually characterized in the pigeon as a chronic infection of the lungs and air sacs. Another name for this disease is pneumomycosis.

 

Pathogen/Cause:

Aspergillus fungi. They grow as multicellular, fluffy mold colonies, free-living in the soil, on vegetation or parasitic living in or on birds, animals, and humans.

 

Symptoms of the disease:

Respiratory form: difficulty in breathing; greenish deposits on tongue and palate.

Skin form: skin scaling off with breaking of feathers.

 

Recognition of the disease:

Cadaver examination: Fungal lawn in lungs.

Microscopic examination of deposits and skin scrapings.

 

Treatment:

Elimination of source of infection (e.g. mouldy feed), separation of affected birds. No treatment is recommended for Aspergillus respiratory infections in pigeons.

Skin infections can be successfully treated e.g. with copper sulfate (1:2000 dilution) or a solution of mercuric chloride (1:500 dilution).

 

Prevention:

Dry, well ventilated loft, good quality feed, administration of vitamins.

 

[PigeonTracker]

Is the grey dark and shiny?

[Guest gladdo]

MY FRIEND HAS ASKED ME TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS ...HE WORRIED THE BIRDS ARE FINE ITS JUST 2 OF THEM HAVE THIS GREY ON TIPS OF THEIR TONGUE ...ANYONE ANY IDEAS AND IF SO WHAT TO USE TO GET RID !!!!! CHEERS ALL MIKEY

[the pigeon_milker]

sounds like canker to me maybe wrong not a big problem and can be soon sorted out  

[Guest gladdo]

I AINT SO SURE TO BE HONEST ILL LET HIM KNOW IN ANYWAYS // NOT SURE IF HE EVEN THREATED THEM FOR CANKER ILL ASK HIM ...WHEN HE ASKED ME I DID NOT KNOW AS IVE NEVER HEARD OF IT BEFORE .....CHEERS

[Novice]

Once I had several birds which had a blue tip to their tongue.

I had heard that "blue tongue" could be caused by a vitamin deficiency.

I sacrificed a bird and had a Post Mortem done by SAC at Auchincruive.

The verdict was that the colouration was "only pigment". There was no health problem with the bird whatsoever.

Idon't think I would be worried about this condition.

[Wiley]

sounds like canker to me maybe wrong not a big problem and can be soon sorted out  

 

not being nasty when i say this but you can blow canker out of the window, its either two one is a respiratory problem or the other is a gentic passing no matter how much you treat or what you treat with the tip of the tongue will stay there, and can even pass onto his offspring if you breed out of him

[PigeonTracker]

I recall reading about the grey tongue in pigeons being a result of the birds inability to deal with the by-products of protien and lactic acid.  From my readings its not harmful for the bird but a sign they get tired quicker than birds with normal colouration.  Hope this helps.

[Guest cloudview]

im sure you will find that this to me like anemia, not sure what treatment is ,ithink going off memory its a lack of iron in diet

[PigeonTracker]

im sure you will find that this to me like anemia, not sure what treatment is ,ithink going off memory its a lack of iron in diet

 

You should soon be able to tell if it is anemia as the birds get dizzy and lose balance just like us humans would.   Worth looking into though.  

 

 

[j.childs]

try feeding 50% barley/depurative & 50% normal feed.... if you notice in the young bird season some youngsters have got blue/grey tongues due to feeding a heavy protein mix but when you lighten the feed up they excersise much better getting fitter and in doing so the blue/grey tongue goes away(ie they are carrying internal fat) this also happens in older birds...my thoughts only...

[Guest gladdo]

ok update on this ...i arrived in my mates garden and he should me some of the birds ...all were absolutely as healthy as my own is ,,,, i checked down the beak and noticed grey on the tip of the tongues ... the pigeons are in top health and he let them out after this ...they flew for 20 - 30 mins and they trapped and he fed them and fresh water ... the 2 birds were no different than the others ... it s just different ..how ever i said id go to a knowledgable fancier nearby and ask him ...when i arrived he said ill sort that and he told me and my mate take all miners , grit away etc in which he only had fresh grit in there with them and put on baytril for 21 days ...if its not gone by 7 days come back ...my mate heard with his own ears and he doing this ... everything should be ok for him but i see how much he is worried ,,, we shall see in 7 days ill keep you updated on this in case it occurs again .... michael... birds did not have black mineral by the way ...cheers

[Guest j.bamling]

I have a cock with 5 x 1sts has blue tipped tongue all

The year round I would not be worried about it !!

[Chairman]

If they all have it put them on Nystatin for 3 - 5 days, you will have to put @ 5mls onto the corn, if you talking about an individual bird

you can give the bird 3 drops down the throat last thing at night and again first thing in the morning it sounds as though it is a fungul

infection.If you use 10mls per litre of cider vinegar in the drinking water once or twice per week, fungus has little chance of infecting

the birds because there would be an acidic enviroment within the crop, when the internal condition of the crop becomes akaline it can

therefore ferment yeast cultures which in turn fuel the fungus infection and allows it to ravish the bird. regular use of Cider Vinegar is

beneficial to pigeons and also supplements the condition of the feather making them very silky.

[Guest gladdo]

chairman with all due respects i assure you this is not the problem what you think as he gives them stuff and i do the exact same stuff and you will never have this problem what you say .... how ever if he aint giving this stuff its very possible .... i think its in his mind now to try what local fancier said so when i know more ill be on ...cheers mate

[DeDarren]

I have a cock with 5 x 1sts has blue tipped tongue all

The year round I would not be worried about it !!

 

I have a friend who during his formative years worked as an apprentice for the legendary Reg Barker of Chadwell Heath, who my friend tells me, was way ahead of his time and taught him a lot about racing pigeons and stockmanship. My friend is also a very close friend of the Planet Brothers and he had a family of Van Loons second to none.

 

My friend once told me that most of the best Van Loon pigeons he has owned invariably had this black / blue tipped tongue. I don't know if it is a coincidence or a family trait, but this was one of the quirks / fads he believed in very strongly.  

 

 

[Tony C]

 

I have a friend who during his formative years worked as an apprentice for the legendary Reg Barker of Chadwell Heath, who my friend tells me, was way ahead of his time and taught him a lot about racing pigeons and stockmanship. My friend is also a very close friend of the Planet Brothers and he had a family of Van Loons second to none.

 

My friend once told me that most of the best Van Loon pigeons he has owned invariably had this black / blue tipped tongue. I don't know if it is a coincidence or a family trait, but this was one of the quirks / fads he believed in very strongly.  

 

 

lol the Initials K D spring to mind

 

[DeDarren]

 

lol the Initials K D spring to mind

 

Correct Tony! So you know the Legend as well eh?! Haha! What a guy!  

 

 

[Tony C]

 

Correct Tony! So you know the Legend as well eh?! Haha! What a guy!  

 

 

Yep! I know him very well. A laugh a minute ;D

[hotrod]

A FRIEND OF MINE HAS TOLD ME TO SEE IF I CAN FIND OUT INFO ON THIS .... TWO OF HIS BIRDS HAS A LIKE GREY ON THE EDGE OF THEIR TONGUES ...THE BIRDS ARE FINE HE NEVER HAS ANY PROBLEMS SO HE TELLS ME BUT WHAT COULD THIS BE ???? AND WHAT WOULD CLEAR IT ???? CHEERS ALL ..... MIKEY

 

It could just be a pigment ,i.e a dark/blue chequer/blue bar with a black beak .I wouldn,t think it,s aspergillosis fumigatis as the birds would look ill, it eventually causes pneumonia and they die no known cure for this disease but you WOULD know if it was  this , as there crop is like a polly bag full of water as they can,t drink enough .

[Lennut Tar]

 

Yep! I know him very well. A laugh a minute ;D

 

Well now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,   ;) "know him well"   :P Please then   :) , invite him on here quick smart (A laugh a minute)  ;D ;D ;D. It might just help us restore it etc ??????????? back to the way it was here   ;) .

Enjoy.

 

 

[Tony C]

 

Well now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,   ;) "know him well"   :P Please then   :) , invite him on here quick smart (A laugh a minute)  ;D ;D ;D. It might just help us restore it etc ??????????? back to the way it was here   ;) .

Enjoy.

 

 

I think to start with we would have to give him a one minute slot once a day, could be too much for some

[Guest gladdo]

ok update problem sorted ive been told ... thanks all for your interest ..it did not seem to worry the bird mostly with it ...he had won twice this year with it ..... thank you