Guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 i have a hen who has gone off her legs after laying. does anyone know wot might have caused this? ive been told she will recover by fanciers who have seen this before, but she is 11 and maybe her age will play a part?
just ask me Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 a good dose of calcuim for a few days will do no harm think this will help i find tablet the best and easiest to use
Guest shadow Posted February 10, 2009 Report Posted February 10, 2009 could be lack of calcium get some tablets from the chemist and give her half a tablet per day
sapper756 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Sounds like calcium deficiency, as said you could slip half a tablet over her neck, however I would tend to dissolve a whole calcium tablet in the drinker, hence, all birds get the benefit, however if your hen is that bad that she can,t access the drinker, then a half tablet over her neck
pjc Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 also put a couple of teaspoons of milk in the drinker and if you can get it give them some limestone grit.
joe61 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 calcium tablets mate from holland and barret be surrprised what you can get there and its cheap dont waste your time putting milk in the drinker oh happy days
pjc Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 milk in the drinker and limestone grit will prevent the problem if given prior to laying, calcium tablet will help if the hen has a deficiency but it makes you wonder if the hen has any other underlying problems.
barnsley_pigeonman Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Shoortie its the cold that dose it it be ok in a few days
Merlin Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 This sometimes occurs if hen is overweight when laying first egg,egg presses against a nerve resulting in loss of use in legs,should be right before second egg is laid,calcium levels are fine if egg shell is good.
OLDYELLOW Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 add soluble calcium to the drinking water , cheapest way of getting calcium in to birds would be to use a cuttle fish and grate it , if you ensure your birds have all that they need during the breeding period your birds shouldnt have no problem laying
Dave barrie Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 we had same problem with old hen going off legs after laying,it wasnt the coldbecause it was mild at the time. gave calcium grit,left to sit,soon came right,funny thing, did the same every year till i moved her on. :-/
jimmy white Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 break a bit from a calcium tab[ used commonly for osteophorosis, spelt wrong, too early ;D ;D ;D] these tabs are very large and a just a bit broken off will suffice, if you want to pay ;D use harkers elementals,, theyll put the bird right in 24 hours,[as will the above ], these are just calcium tabs and yeast tabs
greenlands Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Read an article in the RP they other night, issue 26 DEC,page 52 about Yogurt the vet says it contains a high calcium content,wouldn't be without it this time of year eggs shine like pearls.Lindsay C ps. can also be used with certain antibiotics.
Guest cloudview Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 you won,t get these problems if you put grit in the nestboxes usually occurs due an over agressive cock on the chase, he won,t bother her when she,s in the box where she can help herself to as much as she needs
Guest IB Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Never experienced it but I would doubt that its anything to do with calcium - that comes direct from the birds leg bones. The bit about pressing on a nerve rings true, the main nerve running to the legs passes close to the 'egg works' and some writers have put the cause down to the egg pressing on this nerve causing temporary paralysis which passes in a couple of days.
Guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Never experienced it but I would doubt that its anything to do with calcium - that comes direct from the birds leg bones. The bit about pressing on a nerve rings true, the main nerve running to the legs passes close to the 'egg works' and some writers have put the cause down to the egg pressing on this nerve causing temporary paralysis which passes in a couple of days. i think this is the answer i find easiest to digest because if the birds was lacking in anything then would the egg not be bad?
Guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 why do people feel the need to give calcium tablets or powder if you are giving the birds fresh grit and all the other stuff like minerals etc. they should get what they need from that if they do require extra then something is wrong with that bird and i for one would not breed from it the nerve i could go with but if she layed all right and then went off the eggs i would be looking at what forced her to lift off the nest mite/vermin anything like that a bird that is lacking in calcium or anything like that doesnt make them lift only my views could be wrong
sapper756 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 why do people feel the need to give calcium tablets or powder if you are giving the birds fresh grit and all the other stuff like minerals etc. they should get what they need from that if they do require extra then something is wrong with that bird and i for one would not breed from it the nerve i could go with but if she layed all right and then went off the eggs i would be looking at what forced her to lift off the nest mite/vermin anything like that a bird that is lacking in calcium or anything like that doesnt make them lift only my views could be wrong Depending on where your grit pots are located, a very dominant cock can prevent the hen from getting to the grit pot, hence the need to administer a calcium substitute, IMO
pjc Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 Depending on where your grit pots are located, a very dominant cock can prevent the hen from getting to the grit pot, hence the need to administer a calcium substitute, IMO If the birds have regular, clean fresh grit then being without any for a couple of days while maybe shut in a box with the cockbird isn't going to cause them a defficiency! Do the birds in the transporter during holdover get grit, NO, do they all fall out of the transporter after a 5 day holdover, NO and some of the cockbirds in the bakets may have been chasing others around almost continualy! Phil
Guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 hen is now on her feet and looking better! dont know exactly what is was but im glad shes ok!!
fletch Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 hen is now on her feet and looking better! dont know exactly what is was but im glad shes ok!! great news mate
Guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 Depending on where your grit pots are located, a very dominant cock can prevent the hen from getting to the grit pot, hence the need to administer a calcium substitute, IMO never seen a bird defending a grit pot but if it was say close to a nest on the floor then put more in but as someone said the lack of any thing doesnt happen over a few days or even a week but it looks as though it was just stiffness
Merlin Posted February 13, 2009 Report Posted February 13, 2009 The probability is hen was carrying too much internal"fat"which resulted in egg when being passed pressing against nerve,causing a temporary paralysis in legs,she will be okay for rest of egg laying for season,but watch her feed,as some birds tend to put on weight quite easily,they are like ourselves in this respect L.O.L. Again just my opinion.
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