Guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 hi im just wondering i have had my pigeons tested yesterday and they come back with worms im just wondering if it would be ok to worm them the problum is they are jew t chipp out in 3-4 days time the stuff i got is moxidetlin 1 day water treatment was told it would be ok just wondering what your thoughts would be to this situation
ALF Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Personally i would'nt now as i think it's a bit close but you should have had them checked before now scotty
Guest Owen Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Moxidectin is probably the best wormer you can get. I think I would risk it. It will be important to do them all again as soon as you can. Hair worms are really hard to get ride of because they get everywhere. The floor, the soil everywhere.
Guest strapper Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 fresh garlic cloves in the water for a week or two...most worms cant live in this enviroment in the body and will exit its host. a well known vet once told me this ,as i asked why i didnt have many probs with worms...then he told me why. but you will have to use a wormer if there is a big problem with them.
OLDYELLOW Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 surely as so late be better to drop them as with most wormers you have to repeat after 10 days the ivomectin drops should cure them without the need to retreat , but a thorough clean would be needed or blow torch
jimmy white Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 hi im just wondering i have had my pigeons tested yesterday and they come back with worms im just wondering if it would be ok to worm them the problum is they are jew t chipp out in 3-4 days time the stuff i got is moxidetlin 1 day water treatment was told it would be ok just wondering what your thoughts would be to this situation better late than never,, i would treat,, better with healthy birds feeding youngsters rather than the parents coping with worms and feeding, at the same time,, , this would take far too much out the adults which would have an effect on the youngsters,, i would take the chance,,
greenlands Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 In my opinion you have no choice,worm them,if you don't you'll loose the young birds anyhow, and if it gets worse,which it will if not treated you'll loose some old birds. No choice if they had been mine sooner the better.Hope you get it sorted mate without any loss .Has oldyellow says a blow torch job aswell Lindsay C.
ALF Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 He does'nt even know if the pigeons have worms yet remember!!!
OLDYELLOW Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 hi im just wondering i have had my pigeons tested yesterday and they come back with worms they have worms as hes stated it
Silverdale Lofts Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Moxidectin is probably the best wormer you can get. I think I would risk it. It will be important to do them all again as soon as you can. Hair worms are really hard to get ride of because they get everywhere. The floor, the soil everywhere. http://www.auspigeonco.com.au/Articles/Race_Form_Part3.html
thomasd Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 remove the water for 24 hours then give them milk let them drink it then remove the milk for a few hours then give them water with honey and glucose that will clean them out
jimmy white Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 http://www.auspigeonco.com.au/Articles/Race_Form_Part3.html an excellent post indeed worth the keeping on the health topics ,, rather than fade away into the pages of the main notice board
ALF Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 they have worms as hes stated it I read the 1st line wrong but if it was me i would bin all the eggs and then treat them as i know a friend of mine treated his old birds for worms just as the eggs hatched and got a few y/b's who's flights never burst through the quills that year but it's everyone to there own i suppose but i would never leave it that late to get them checked in the 1st place
Guest IB Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 I was diagnosed with hairworm this time last year. The vet told me at this time of year, the life cycle is months - the time for an egg to develop, through juvenile to adult stage, when the female will lay. He advised me to delay until after breeding, then do before racing. Anything you give the birds just now will end up in their crop milk, and the last thing you want is a wormer in newly hatched youngsters. Levamisole & Ivermectin for example, is not to be given during 'hatching season' as it affects the moult. I also don't believe one dose on one day will cure anything, Levamisole is a 3-day course, so have a look at that moxidectin label for correct treatment, On balance, I'd delay until after the youngsters are shifted. In the meantime be ultra-clean and keep the loft bone dry. After scraping out, dust with a dry disinfectant like stalosan or harkers loft treatment, which will kill any eggs passed in the droppings.
Guest karl adams Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 it would be better to worm them now be for they start feeding there young and give the loft a good clean out and blow torch the lot floors boxes perch's feed trays and soak water troughs in bleach and boiling water because if u leave them they will pass them on to the young witch will then be weak and get other disease and poor fethering i would then make sure i give the birds garlic in the water for 2 days every week
blackswan Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Dmy dog had worms for six weeks
Guest IB Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 Worms don't get passed on from parent to youngster. Worms lay eggs, these are passed in the droppings, and have to be first eaten by another bird, survive the bird's immune system, and then hatch. They have to become adults, and adult females before they can lay again. Interrupt the lifecycle by killing the eggs = no new worms. Garlic will also shift worms already in the gut, but again, you don't want garlic with newly hatched youngsters either.
OLDYELLOW Posted February 11, 2009 Report Posted February 11, 2009 I read the 1st line wrong but if it was me i would bin all the eggs and then treat them as i know a friend of mine treated his old birds for worms just as the eggs hatched and got a few y/b's who's flights never burst through the quills that year but it's everyone to there own i suppose but i would never leave it that late to get them checked in the 1st place Yup hes definately put the horse before the cart the birds should have been checked well before pairing , i've never treat for worms on a nest ever so i'd try the ivomectin drops and a deep clean , good luck mate you need some
peterpau Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 hi im just wondering i have had my pigeons tested yesterday and they come back with worms im just wondering if it would be ok to worm them the problum is they are jew t chipp out in 3-4 days time the stuff i got is moxidetlin 1 day water treatment was told it would be ok just wondering what your thoughts would be to this situation Well done for getting them tested mate. I guess you have to decide what next. Moxidectin would seem to be a problem with feeding parents. Ivermectin is similar product but as you use one drop on the back of the neck it won't have any effect on the young in the nest I believe. Best O' luck
peterpau Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 better late than never,, i would treat,, better with healthy birds feeding youngsters rather than the parents coping with worms and feeding, at the same time,, , this would take far too much out the adults which would have an effect on the youngsters,, i would take the chance,, Kind of agree with this also. I'd sooner treat before the hatch for a couple o' days than leave 'em untreated.
Guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 i would like to thank all for help i wormed them today as only 4 eggs jew to hatch on sunday and the rest throught nxt week thanks again scotty
micky Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 you have to do it for 2days mate i have it the from pj lofts
thunderboult Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 i watched peter van de eijnden dvd the other day and he stated on it he had never treated for worms in 35 years of keeping pigeons. and his racing record was second to none.
Guest gladdo Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 yet but this is not peter and obviously people look after there birds in different way so ignore that last post ...his birds have worms i believe now get them treated asap mate if you havent already done ....... good luck and let us know how you get on mate .....
Guest j.bamling Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 i watched peter van de eijnden dvd the other day and he stated on it he had never treated for worms in 35 years of keeping pigeons. and his racing record was second to none. Thats great if Peter has not treated in 35 years but what i will tell you is if Peter had his birds tested and they came back as worms he would definatly be treating that is for sure and this lad has worms as stated , back to the post i was told i could treat with moxidectin once the ybs feathers are stalky he said if they were younger the treatment could nip the ybs this is just what i was told i have never tried it so i can't really say !!!
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