wings Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 Hi i have a question for the experts among the forum, Two of my widowhood Cocks have watery droppings, they are flying OK eating well and generaly look in good health, is the fact that 2 have watery dropping a problem what could it be? i have upted the training this week and also gone onto Vesali Laga super widowhood mix, could this be the problem or cause. could it be worms or just an upset stomach. i wormed them in January do they need doing again.
OLDYELLOW Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 im no expert but like you say you have changed there corn which could alter there droppings
bigdees Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 hi had same problem with a few of the stock pairs my friend sugested a couple of things it mite be like too much water and too much grit when feeding y.bs so i cut down the water and grit intake also gave them fural for few days and that did the trick hope this will help your prob
pigeonpete Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 dont think any 1 could be an expert on watery droppings, but i would agree with oldyellow, change in brand of corn most probable, and you say you have upped there training, could be a bit of stress? as all birds act differently, mine often have watery droppings on return from a race, but soon return to normal, if there flying and eating o.k, then no worriers, unless they are drinking more than normal?
Guest asha Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 Hi Wings, Don`t get stressed out mate,you`ll have the sh**s just like you birds otherwise,big deal these 2 got wettish droppings,change of feed,weather,,training,next doors cat,or topless neighbor sunbathing,chill out,try not to run for the medicine at a drop of a hat,you start that game and pump them full of crap and you will be in all sorts of trouble .Stress is always the precursor of fanciers problems,if only fanciers played the waiting game and let the birds come around steady. ;)You know it makes sense.
Guest MIKE1957 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 Hi i have a question for the experts among the forum, Two of my widowhood Cocks have watery droppings, they are flying OK eating well and generaly look in good health, is the fact that 2 have watery dropping a problem what could it be? i have upted the training this week and also gone onto Vesali Laga super widowhood mix, could this be the problem or cause. could it be worms or just an upset stomach. i wormed them in January do they need doing again. ive had the same problem, but mine is only when the birds eat things in the garden. does your ever land in the garden,if so it could be something they are picking up
OLDYELLOW Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 drop of honey electrolytes wouldnt hurt nor would a drop of cider vinegar
THE FIFER Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 agree change of feeding could be the problem, i like to mix half and half of the new mix with the old mix first to break them in with it, ialso found the versa laga plus mix, does give a bit softer droppings, not watery but a bit soft,
wings Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Posted April 23, 2009 Maybe i should have done that fifer, i won't be sending the cocks this weekend i think they may well get dehydrated from shitting water.
aye ready Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 could it b that they're coming back from training taking a gutfull of water and not eating their normal intake
Roland Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 Hi Wings, Don`t get stressed out mate,you`ll have the sh**s just like you birds otherwise,big deal these 2 got wettish droppings,change of feed,weather,,training,next doors cat,or topless neighbor sunbathing,chill out,try not to run for the medicine at a drop of a hat,you start that game and pump them full of crap and you will be in all sorts of trouble .Stress is always the precursor of fanciers problems,if only fanciers played the waiting game and let the birds come around steady. ;)You know it makes sense. Word of wisdom. Exactly that! Gosh do we run for the medicence cabinet, discuss with the doctors every time our droppings change :-/ :-/ :o It is normal, regardless what the 'Ego Trippers' spout. First signs of Troubles ahead is best gained from the roof tops - never mind blumming droppings. Then when you first go into the loft the EYE is the mirror of the soul so to speak. Will tell you instantly if any thing amiss .... same as which one to pool! That's not to say thet your two cock birds are 'Off Colour' may be.... but first of the first two are the best tellers.... Then IF the roof tops and eyes tell you that something is wrong.... Then ask, A on here, or an expierenced club mate first THEN if need be the Vets, but to be honest most times a vet is involved - outside when we use them to jab for Para etc. - is the fact that it is the fanciers fault,they should see some one first. Tell you what, very often, and in very many cases, if a Vet is sought, chances are that it shouldn't be in the loft any way!
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 are they feeding y/birds and are they drinking more than normal wings?
Guest spin cycle Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 i wouldn't have thought 'restricting' water was a good idea ...ever. i thought barley was good in these situations....i'm not an expert though so i shouldn't have posted...oops
Guest strapper Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 what colour are the wet droppings,believe it or not it makes a difference. stress related/racing it will be yellowish. most watery droppings are tinted green. change of feed can change stiffness of the droppings but only if its oily seeds in the mixture or more peas. watery droppings are from nutrients passing through the body without being absorbed into the body if this symptom persists theres only one way to know....get them tested and put your mind at rest! have a look at this site...but after reading dont think youve got everything listed lol...hope this helps. http://www.chevita.com/en/pigeons/symptoms/index.php
Guest bigda Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 i would say the both have a high count of cocci
Guest IB Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 No expert, but agree with most replies, probably a bit stressed by changes in routine and feed. But gut feeling is asking why just these two? Has a wee bit stress found them out already? As others say, would do nothing other than keep a watchful eye on them. But if everything else is OK with them as you suggest, wouldn't be altering my plans for them either, if they were going this weekend, they'd still go.
wings Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Posted April 23, 2009 ive had the same problem, but mine is only when the birds eat things in the garden. does your ever land in the garden,if so it could be something they are picking up I try not tp let eat out of the garden for that reason maybe they have without me knowing
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 ian are you saying that a fancier that has seen something wrong with birds should still send with all the clubs/fed birds i dont think thats the way to go better seperated and wait till all is ok no matter how trival it might seem thats what spreads all sosts through the feds if in doubt leave them out!!
wings Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Posted April 23, 2009 are they feeding y/birds and are they drinking more than normal wings? They are not feeding young and seem to be drinking less if anything if thats possible.
wings Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Posted April 23, 2009 what colour are the wet droppings,believe it or not it makes a difference. stress related/racing it will be yellowish. most watery droppings are tinted green. change of feed can change stiffness of the droppings but only if its oily seeds in the mixture or more peas. watery droppings are from nutrients passing through the body without being absorbed into the body if this symptom persists theres only one way to know....get them tested and put your mind at rest! have a look at this site...but after reading dont think youve got everything listed lol...hope this helps. http://www.chevita.com/en/pigeons/symptoms/index.php The droppings are not tainted not green or yellow just look watery.
aye ready Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 best time to check droppings is early morning,especially w/h cocks if they're good in the morning wouldn't worry about it,which if everything is A1 they should be
wings Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Posted April 23, 2009 wings are the droppings clear like water ? Yes with bit of crap in them
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 i had a similar situation 2 weeks ago in the stock loft caught it rite away 1st 1 pair started pumping water into y/b then next day another pair started thease two pair of birds were brought in this year went through the flying vet and fit to win books they both made clear reference the new stock and the passing of canker (wet) and how it sometimes only starts when put under stress with feeding etc. rondisadoll hope the spelling is correct cleared it up in 3 days + eletrolites and origo stim not saying its the same with you but might be
Guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Posted April 23, 2009 sory wings the old birds were squirting clear water with very little droppings in it not a single problem with my own stock birds
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