ryesway Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 hello all how many of you use natural yogurt and brewers yeast as a probiotic , and wot amount would you put on 1kg of corn , and would you say the results would be the same as using i.e strike or similar cus i find theses products are quite dear for the amount you get any ideas would be grateful thanks rye
Guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 hello all how many of you use natural yogurt and brewers yeast as a probiotic , and wot amount would you put on 1kg of corn , and would you say the results would be the same as using i.e strike or similar cus i find theses products are quite dear for the amount you get any ideas would be grateful thanks rye :)I use natural yogurt all the time,never used brewers yeast.I put my yogurt in the water three large soup spoons to two and a half lts of boiled water, i also use ENTRO PLUS from med pet twice a week
OLDYELLOW Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 i use vitminized brewers yeast and yoghurt never used strike i like the yoghurt and brewers yeast tho probably the best source of vitamins for the birds
just ask me Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 just be careful with your wording brewers yeast is not a probiotic just so u don't get mixed up natural yogurt and other probiotics are useful to use all year round and after a the use of antibiotics brewers yeast can be used all year round too but not after antibiotics as the yeast level in birds naturally goes to a high level after the use of antibiotics so brewers yeast shouldn't be used after the use of most medications
Guest Owen Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 What evidence do we have that pigeons can digest cow's milk or it's derivatives? I have my doubts about the value of anything that is ex-cow. It's much the same with humans. Bovine products are nowhere near as good as people once thought. I think that there are better ways of looking after the health of birds.
pjc Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 What evidence do we have that pigeons can digest cow's milk or it's derivatives? I have my doubts about the value of anything that is ex-cow. It's much the same with humans. Bovine products are nowhere near as good as people once thought. I think that there are better ways of looking after the health of birds. Put a couple of spoonfuls of cows milk in your drinker and see how white and glowing your birds eggs are!
pigeondan Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 :)I use natural yogurt all the time,never used brewers yeast.I put my yogurt in the water three large soup spoons to two and a half lts of boiled water, i also use ENTRO PLUS from med pet twice a week Would you not kill all the good bacteria in the yogurt when you added it to the boiling water?
Guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 Would you not kill all the good bacteria in the yogurt when you added it to the boiling water? I DID'ENT SAY BOILING WATER
Heinz-57 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 try adding an egg to your birds mix one hens egg to 1kg of food then feed straight away
Guest Grasshopper Lofts Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 try adding an egg to your birds mix one hens egg to 1kg of food then feed straight away what does this do
Heinz-57 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 this makes the feather feel like silk lots of bloom plus the protien helps the build up of the bird
Roland Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 Well do as you feel you must, but in reality there just can't be a jot of any good for them. But people think there is, swear by it etc. so go ahead and but Yalkut, that or Beni.... Won't do them much harm, but will make you, and thoses using it feel better, so that isthe bonus.
Guest Grasshopper Lofts Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 this makes the feather feel like silk lots of bloom plus the protien helps the build up of the bird thanks for that
flyingteessider Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 Quoted from Kestrel try adding an egg to your birds mix one hens egg to 1kg of food then feed straight away how often you do that
flyingteessider Posted June 10, 2009 Report Posted June 10, 2009 ill take it down as a note may give it a go thanks 4 that
cheeseman Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 ive used nat youghrt for pheasant chicks. they luv it helps build there natural flora and fauna so to speak,cant see no reason why pigeons cant do the same,maybe shotgun tim can correct me here
Tony C Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 :)I use natural yogurt all the time,never used brewers yeast.I put my yogurt in the water three large soup spoons to two and a half lts of boiled water Do same but use bottled water (no Chlorine)
just ask me Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 flight path a fairly new product it really looks the part for a probiotic
Roland Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 Have posted before, and everyone to their own Quoted from a world renowned Vet, and pigeon fancier '................. Roly: Yoghurt as a probiotic for pigeons - it's my understanding that the organisms in yoghurt are meant for the human digestive tract, and as such, they don't colonise the intestines of pigeons very well. The second point is that, according to a human pediatric gastro-enterologist whose seminar I attended not long ago, 90% of the organisms (if not ALL) in commercial yoghurt are dead when the product is purchased. So the product would not appear to be as useful for the digestive tract of either humans or pigeons as we'd like to think. (Home-made yoghurt might be an viable alternative. Preparation kits are often available in specialty shops and may reduce costs substantially.) This specialist recommended (for humans) to purchase acidophilus capsules from the refrigerator case in food or specialty stores, and NOT to buy the same product sitting on a shelf at room temperature. For pigeons, I think an avian-source probiotic would be best. Have you ever tried FlightPath? Let me know what you think of it etc. etc. So pay your money and take uyour choice.
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