THE MOULT

[REDCHEQHEN]

I still have some youngsters with 3 and 4 flights to go (I can't get buttermilk where I live ) whereas my old birds are either through the moult or on their last flight

 

Any tips??

[pjc]

extend the light and give warm baths.

[pigeonpete]

i know buttermilk is sold in tescos? so would they not have it?   blue and cream container :-)

[whiteknight]

To many fanciers make to much fuss over the moult ive seen a bird win three firsts on the trot against top widowhood flyers with four nest flights :-/.

[pigeonpete]

This is how i was told to make butter milk :-)Take about 1 cup of whole milk, and then add about 1/4 cup of white vinegar to it. Let it stand about 1/2 hour. Instant butter milk.

[REDCHEQHEN]

i know buttermilk is sold in tescos? so would they not have it?   blue and cream container :-)

 

the nrearest Tescos that stock it is 15 miles away

[REDCHEQHEN]

extend the light and give warm baths.

 

what will this do to the birds that are already through the moult?

 

Old birds and 'young' birds are mixed

[pjc]

it won't effect the old birds but will encourage the yb's to continue moulting unless they have already stopped.

[Guest]

I still have some youngsters with 3 and 4 flights to go (I can't get buttermilk where I live ) whereas my old birds are either through the moult or on their last flight

 

Any tips??

 

Big Burrows, Haydock 14.30

[REDCHEQHEN]

it won't effect the old birds but will encourage the yb's to continue moulting unless they have already stopped.

 

they haven't stopped moulting, plenty of feathers to clean out this morning

 

how many hours do I need to extend daylight, all the sections have got lights in except one (and that has got the old stock hens in so that won't matter anyway)

[Tony C]

If its any consolation RCH mine are exactly the same, not going to hit the panic button just yet.

[PIGEON_MAN]

This is how i was told to make butter milk :-)Take about 1 cup of whole milk, and then add about 1/4 cup of white vinegar to it. Let it stand about 1/2 hour. Instant butter milk.

 

Woman in our local health shop told me 1 pint of milk to a tablespoon (I think) of cream of tartar,but I managed to find a shop that sold it,used it for quit a few weeks but couldn,t really see it was making any difference,not bothered with it since.

[Tony C]

As far as I'm aware buttermilk is supposed to help kick start the body moult, dont think it assists in any way on the growing of their last primary flights any quicker.

[pigeonpete]

 

Woman in our local health shop told me 1 pint of milk to a tablespoon (I think) of cream of tartar,but I managed to find a shop that sold it,used it for quit a few weeks but couldn,t really see it was making any difference,not bothered with it since.

 

Never used it myself, will stick with the sedachol  

[blackdog]

To many fanciers make to much fuss over the moult ive seen a bird win three firsts on the trot against top widowhood flyers with four nest flights :-/.

 

 

same here mate, had birds still holding 2 nest flights as yearlings and still won, i used to bother myself about them not fully moulting out as youngsters but dont bother much now.

 

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

I bet ive seen more birds win which of had a full moult than what carry nest flights

[steve d]

I still have some youngsters with 3 and 4 flights to go (I can't get buttermilk where I live ) whereas my old birds are either through the moult or on their last flight

 

Any tips??

 

Best tip I will give you is dont panic, my own are the same and always have been this time of the year, they will moult through ok.

I just feed to appetite with a good moulting mix and 3 baths a week with grit 2 times a week.

 

[REDCHEQHEN]

I bet ive seen more birds win which of had a full moult than what carry nest flights

 

we've never had any luck with yearlings carrying nest flights, and don't know anybody who has

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

only birds i have which carry nest flights are late breds for stock purposes . if your darkness birds are carrying nestflights as yearlings i take it you havent mastered the darkness system yet !!!

[REDCHEQHEN]

You could be right ROCKYandRAMBO

[pjc]

if they are still moulting don't panic but you could increase daylight by an hour just to stop the moult halting.

[whiteknight]

only birds i have which carry nest flights are late breds for stock purposes . if your darkness birds are carrying nestflights as yearlings i take it you havent mastered the darkness system yet !!!

:-/ The pigeon was a late bred im a master at the darkness system .

 

 

[terry mccarthy]

all u want is sedochol and poultry spice old birds finshed natural youngsters finished darkness 1 to go but this is exception darkies dont throw last flight untill around last week in december if you have done darkness right so wouldnt worry

[blackdog]

I bet ive seen more birds win which of had a full moult than what carry nest flights

 

as long as they win for me mate not bothered, as i said just odd ones not them all, jmo.

 

[Guest Davy Fleming]

If you have lights on in the loft and keep on till bed time they won't be long in catching up