xtccock Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 hi does anybody use these if not why if so why a bloke who shows indian fantails and does well with them feeds them all the time and they are not fat bleive me and says he never cankers neither , and at only £4 A BAG THEY ARE CHEAP AND EASY TO DIGEST !!!!! thoughts please
Guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 I know they are high in protein to promote maximum egg production so the birds won't get fat and for racing purposes the birds will build muscle so there are benefits.On the other hand I am not sure that the quality will be appropriate for racing pigeons ie beware of mould and I'm not sure either about the drugs which are often contained in commercial poultry food.
celtic Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 There is a fancier writes in the homing world, jim emmerton i think his name is always swears by layers pellets, and i believe he was very succesful with them , especially at the distance
chickadee Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 There is a fancier writes in the homing world, jim emmerton i think his name is always swears by layers pellets, and i believe he was very succesful with them , especially at the distance Our birds quite like a wee drop of layers mash which is the same as pellets but in powder form, as long as you don't get it wet as it goes sour quick when wet. ;D
mark Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 I know they are high in protein to promote maximum egg production so the birds won't get fat and for racing purposes the birds will build muscle so there are benefits.On the other hand I am not sure that the quality will be appropriate for racing pigeons ie beware of mould and I'm not sure either about the drugs which are often contained in commercial poultry food. if i remember rightly chrissy chickens that lay eggs for people to eat cant be fed antibiotics.
chickadee Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 if i remember rightly chrissy chickens that lay eggs for people to eat cant be fed antibiotics. Yes you are right, if you give chickens antibiotics you can't eat their eggs for at least 28 days after the antibiotics are finished, cause it takes 28 days for an egg to form inside the chickens body.
Guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 Yes you are right, if you give chickens antibiotics you can't eat their eggs for at least 28 days after the antibiotics are finished, cause it takes 28 days for an egg to form inside the chickens body. a mind of information so yi are
chickadee Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 a mind of information so yi are Aye, just another wee bit o frivalous information for ye. ;D ;D ;D
Guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 I'd be wary of poultry pellets, agree that they probably don't contain antibiotics, but they do contain growth hormones, hence the spectacular 'body' the birds put on. Can get pellets made for pigeons, Gem's G10s for example. 28 days to make one egg? Thought poultry were egg-laying machines that ovulated every 7 minutes and when they start to lay, lay every day?
chickadee Posted September 6, 2007 Report Posted September 6, 2007 I'd be wary of poultry pellets, agree that they probably don't contain antibiotics, but they do contain growth hormones, hence the spectacular 'body' the birds put on. Can get pellets made for pigeons, Gem's G10s for example. 28 days to make one egg? Thought poultry were egg-laying machines that ovulated every 7 minutes and when they start to lay, lay every day? yes but the whole cycle of making an egg takes 28 days, so they are constantly starting the cycle every day, which makes them egg laying machines as you put it. ;D
Guest slugmonkey Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 Have tried laying pellets during breeding season but have found peas are far better other "pellets" I have tried Calf manna alfalfa and am currently giving a food pellet that contains a probiotic I am only feeding about 3-5 % 1 or 2 days a week
THE PRIEST Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 I USE GEM G10 PELLETS AND FIND THEY ARE EXCELLENT DURING BREEDING AND REARING OF YOUNG BIRDS. THE YOUNG BIRDS SEEM TO BE BIGGER AND HEALTHIER THAN BEFORE I STARTED USING THEM. I HAVE ALSO USED RED MILLS PELLETS AND THESE WERE GOOD TOO. THEY AINT CHEEP BUT IF YOU ONLY GIVE ABOUT 10% TO THE FEED THEY LAST A WHILE.
T_T Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 For at least five years after visiting John Crowder and seeing the condition of his pigeons, I have fed my stock birds all year round and my racers through the winter, on the following mix. 2 parts Beans, I part Barley and 1 part Chicken Layers Pellets. Not seen anyones pigeons look better and the youngsters they rear are second to none. The added bonus to this of course, is that you can mix up two hundred weight for less than £20.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 yes but the whole cycle of making an egg takes 28 days, so they are constantly starting the cycle every day, which makes them egg laying machines as you put it. ;D so how many eggs does that mean they have inside them each day ?
chickadee Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 so how many eggs does that mean they have inside them each day ? quite a few but thats what a vet told me about them, so i presume he knew what he was talking about. :-/
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 quite a few but thats what a vet told me about them, so i presume he knew what he was talking about. :-/ aye because you don't
chickadee Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 aye because you don't Is that not how one learns? from info passed on from one who knows, then you pass on the info to folk who are interested.
Guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 yes but the whole cycle of making an egg takes 28 days, so they are constantly starting the cycle every day, which makes them egg laying machines as you put it. ;D Think you've maybe picked it up wrong, probably because it sounds so incredible: a chicken 'starts' a new egg every 7 minutes, and lays every 24 hours. Don't know how this works, or how long between ovulation and lay. Take your point about a monthly cycle, but seems to be a big difference between a pigeon at two eggs per cycle and a chicken at [don't know how many] eggs per cycle. When do they have a break ??
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 Think you've maybe picked it up wrong, probably because it sounds so incredible: a chicken 'starts' a new egg every 7 minutes, and lays every 24 hours. Don't know how this works, or how long between ovulation and lay. Take your point about a monthly cycle, but seems to be a big difference between a pigeon at two eggs per cycle and a chicken at [don't know how many] eggs per cycle. When do they have a break ?? WHEN THEY HAVE A KIT-KAT BRUNO ;D
chickadee Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 Think you've maybe picked it up wrong, probably because it sounds so incredible: a chicken 'starts' a new egg every 7 minutes, and lays every 24 hours. Don't know how this works, or how long between ovulation and lay. Take your point about a monthly cycle, but seems to be a big difference between a pigeon at two eggs per cycle and a chicken at [don't know how many] eggs per cycle. When do they have a break ?? I'm glad i'm not a chicken anyway. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 I'm glad i'm not a chicken anyway. ;D ;D ;D ;D well you are a chickendee ;D ;D ;D
Brian Smith Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 We have used Turkey starter crumbs for a long time and never had young bird sickness,but as stated you have to watch what you use growers have a sedative in them to stop them pecking one another.
Guest Vic Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 [/b] WHEN THEY HAVE A KIT-KAT BRUNO ;D I've sent you a crate full. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
nigel holloway Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 layers pellets contain 16% protein the same as layers mash,the 2 products are the same the pellets are just crushed down more for the young chicks to eat .then you move onto chick crumb and then layers pellets. they are all the same with 16% protein.not as good as g10 s though.
jimmy white Posted September 7, 2007 Report Posted September 7, 2007 hi does anybody use these if not why if so why a bloke who shows indian fantails and does well with them feeds them all the time and they are not fat bleive me and says he never cankers neither , and at only £4 A BAG THEY ARE CHEAP AND EASY TO DIGEST !!!!! thoughts please the reason i wouldnt feed any[ complete] pellets are simply that as a grain eating bird, it has a gizzard where it stores the grit which masticates the grain , if you were to feed a complete diet of pellets,, the gizzard would become redundant [im not against pellets at the right time and for the right reasons] but just one other way of ruining the modern days pigeons constitution.
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