Guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Posted November 18, 2007 5 Ch C NL00/543 (l/bred 2002), I purchased this cock in autumn 2004 at Europa sale in Barnsley for a tidy sum. He is Batenburg / Van well, a small to medium cock. I purchased a hen for him but I found her dead in my loft before they were mated!! This is a medium/small cock which I am confident will breed 600 mile pigeons. He is a bit special in that his dam is a half sister to the Gouden Frans of Joop Koch (016Joop) which was 13th Souston 12,372 birds, 62nat Dax 20349 birds 248 Nat St Vincent 19870 birds and 320 Nat Dax 14220 birds. Full pedigree and ring card supplied. This bird is to be sold to the best bid by next Thursday evening 22nd November at 9 pm. If there is a bid in the last ten minutes of the sale, the sale will remain open for a further ten minutes, e.g. a bid comes in at 8.51, the sale extends to 9.10, a counter bid comes in at 9.08, the sale extends to 9.20, no bid by 9.20 the sale is finished. Please bid on this thread. Start bid £20 (purchaser to pay carriage)
Guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Posted November 19, 2007 Had a query on the breding . On the dam side is batenburg, her father is Batenburg and a son of De Super 05 when paired to Daughter Lourdesduif the dam (gdam of the pigeon for sale) is NL 91 9173480 mother of Gouden Frans (016 - Joop) meant nothing to me when i bought the pigeon, I selected him on the eye you'll be surprised to know!! I have an e mail from a Dutch friend which told me where to find the Gouden Frans, the link he gave me was http://www.pww.nl/lofts/koch/engels/ then click famous pigeons, then Gouden Frans. I've tried it and it still works
timbarra Posted November 20, 2007 Report Posted November 20, 2007 5 Ch C NL00/543 (l/bred 2002), I purchased this cock in autumn 2004 at Europa sale in Barnsley for a tidy sum. He is Batenburg / Van well, a small to medium cock. I purchased a hen for him but I found her dead in my loft before they were mated!! This is a medium/small cock which I am confident will breed 600 mile pigeons. He is a bit special in that his dam is a half sister to the Gouden Frans of Joop Koch (016Joop) which was 13th Souston 12,372 birds, 62nat Dax 20349 birds 248 Nat St Vincent 19870 birds and 320 Nat Dax 14220 birds. Full pedigree and ring card supplied. This bird is to be sold to the best bid by next Thursday evening 22nd November at 9 pm. If there is a bid in the last ten minutes of the sale, the sale will remain open for a further ten minutes, e.g. a bid comes in at 8.51, the sale extends to 9.10, a counter bid comes in at 9.08, the sale extends to 9.20, no bid by 9.20 the sale is finished. Please bid on this thread. Start bid £20 (purchaser to pay carriage) What has this pigeon bred albear? you have had it 3 years so has it bred any good birds? it is nearly 8 years ?? breeding record of the pigeon is? you say your confident it will breed 600mile birds? how many 600 mile pigeons have you got from it? that have flown 600 miles? why you getting rid? just a couple of questions as i have no faith in your confidence as i put up a bird for charity and you were invited to match it for charity and never did, but rather sell making miney to line your own pocket , so i have no confidence in your word .!! i await your answers refering to the said pigeon thank you so much spencer.
Guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Posted November 20, 2007 Well Timbara when I read your questions, I did chuckle, cause you even got your facts wrong in your questions, e.g. it's an 02 pigeon and my first breeding season was 2006!! It made me realise I may have done you a dis service , perhaps you are not as deicietful as I thought, you may be perhaps not so bright? But then you show your true character, you think it's funny that old people become incontinent do you?? Another indication of the type of person you are! For those who have no idea why Timbarra has posted on here please read the following links and make up your own mind who the con man is.One person bidding told me that Timbarra might ruin the sale, well do you know i would be dissapointed, but I'd rather keep my integrity than allow someone like Timbarra to get away with questioning it. Please read the folowing links if you haven't previously Thanks http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/blah/m-1192439398/s-0/ http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/blah/m-1193677337/s-3/highlight-albear/#num3
Merlin Posted November 20, 2007 Report Posted November 20, 2007 As one of the people involved in bidding for some birds now on this site for Auction by Albear.to say I was pretty baffled when reading Timbarras comments regarding one of those birds,now after viewing past links,the words of very good fancier friend of mine , now sadly no longer among us( When buying birds its the pedigree of the man you want ) he told me, in this instance how true this is,and so with this in mind I now increase my bid to £45 for above bird. £45
Okitsme Posted November 20, 2007 Report Posted November 20, 2007 Albear you have nothing more than a petty personal vendetta. Webmaster should delete this thread!!!!!!!!!!
mark Posted November 20, 2007 Report Posted November 20, 2007 Albear you have nothing more than a petty personal vendetta. Webmaster should delete this thread!!!!!!!!!! why is that? because hes not a nodding dog he is entitled to his opinion just like anyone else. if you like it thats another matter. :P : :
ALF Posted November 20, 2007 Report Posted November 20, 2007 Albear you have nothing more than a petty personal vendetta. Webmaster should delete this thread!!!!!!!!!! :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
frank-123 Posted November 20, 2007 Report Posted November 20, 2007 if i had the room i would bid for your bird albear something tells me you are honest and trustworthy and i like i guy who doesn't hide behind the tree's good luck with your sale
bewted Posted November 20, 2007 Report Posted November 20, 2007 Albear you have nothing more than a petty personal vendetta. Webmaster should delete this thread!!!!!!!!!! why do you call it a petty personal vendetta,,,,,,,they are both doing the same type of thing,,,,so,why delete it just for you ????
Guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Posted November 20, 2007 this thread shows that if ur face fits ur threads get left to run and not removed....paul.
bewted Posted November 20, 2007 Report Posted November 20, 2007 this thread shows that if ur face fits ur threads get left to run and not removed....paul. theres two sides to every story and both have good points !!!! but,i think your well off the mark on this one friend !!!!!
Guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Posted November 20, 2007 theres two sides to every story and both have good points !!!! but,i think your well off the mark on this one friend !!!!! ur entitled to ur opinion ,wether its right or wrong,and i believe im right in saying that u were one of them that asked for my thread on rick other night to be removed??yet u objected to someone else saying the same thing on this thread?
retired Posted November 20, 2007 Report Posted November 20, 2007 ur entitled to ur opinion ,wether its right or wrong,and i believe im right in saying that u were one of them that asked for my thread on rick other night to be removed??yet u objected to someone else saying the same thing on this thread? my own feeling on this is simple - initial problem that we all thought was sorted has creeped up again, Timbarra offered to call a truce with the offer of a young bird from one of the champions he owns if albear would also donate a yb the sale was for website funds i dont know what the outcome of this offer will be. For whatever reason the argument has restarted, i was told last week that the gestel pair were aain available and only because of my own situation did i not take them but Andrew did and best of luck to him. the initial situation began over timbarra not awnsering questions so he asked the same of albear. I really think it is time to draw this under the bridge once and for all, let people do what they please and if you dont like it say nothing as hard as it may be. I hae had the pleasure of visiting timbarra and also of losing an aucton to Albear(unfairly i might add) both of you appear to be good decent people who have just crossed wires which is something i hope can be resolved sooner rather than later. THE PIGEON MEN NEEDS TO STICK TOGETHER!!! if
Roland Posted November 21, 2007 Report Posted November 21, 2007 Made me laugh ... 'Auctioned off' then in same breathe says some lucky fanciers would get good birds for free! :K)
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