Here let me tell you something, if I say its a shambles its a shambles, there was an ex member on here asked for the programme for the fed and didn't even here a peep, and there is plenty owe members on here couldn't even tell him until it was mentioned this morning. I didn't no the programme or I would have told him. Then being told it was decided at the meeting, well I wasn't there due to work committeemen's. Any way, another thing for YOU, Methilhaven pigeon club yb sale has nothing to do with the Fed Programme, on what the topic is all about, so you may want to retract what you have written, or explain what you mean, and yes, I have something to do with the sale for the club am helping to keep the club alive with the help of outsiders.