Ian McKay

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Well done Margaret

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The Joe Murphy Column This week is my 70th birthday and to be honest with you I’m quite looking forward to it as my daughter had organised a family get together and I wish to spend it with my WHOLE Family. My old man never managed this achievement as he died at the age of 53 and therefore I intend to enjoy mine as it is a special occasion. My wife Margaret has gone through old photographs looking for one to have printed on my birthday cake and low and behold this picture brought back some happy memories for us both. It is of me holding a red chequer cock that flew Palamos 1026 miles for me away back in 1976. The eyes of these pigeons were taken at the first Blackpool Show in 1977 by Anthony Bolton as the 1000 mile club exhibited these birds and took orders for youngsters for the following year. The 1973 blue chequer hen next to my pigeon was flown by my club mate Danny King and he had 2 hens home from his 3 entries. The 1000 mile club took orders at £25 each from a Denmark fancier with my red cock being mated to both of Danny’s hens. The club getting 50% with Danny and me each receiving 25% which was a hell of a lot of money in those days. The story gets better as a loft came up for sale and on the strength of selling these youngsters Margaret and I purchased it only for the Denmark fancier calling off the sale, which left Margaret and I in a bit of a ‘pickle’. Anyway the loft I’m standing in front of to have this photograph taken was the new loft we purchased and we timed in some very good birds over the years. The caption on my birds eyes reads as follows; A 1972 red chequer cock owned by Mr. & Mrs J Murphy. In 1972 this pigeon flew all YB races in the Fife Fed. It was timed on the day from Beauvais (515 miles) in 1973, flew SNFC Nantes in 1974 and Rennes and Avranches 1975. In 1976 it flew Palamos (1.026 miles) and was the 13th bird verified by the Scottish 1000 Mile Club. The 1973 blue chequer hen, which was 8th verified with the Scottish 1000 Mile Club from Palamos, also flying 1.026 miles. This pigeon had previously flown Avranches three times. It is owned by D King of Kennoway. The third picture I have included was of yours truly with Mystical Rose winner of 1st open SNFC Sartilly in 1992 this hen won 4 times from Sartilly for me and was a very special pigeon. A lot of happy memories for me as I write this column but I’m only doing so as this is a very special occasion. Joe Murphy and his Palamos pigeon 1976 Eyes 1000 Milers Joe Murphy with 1st open SNFC Sartilly Magnetite Received an email from Ian Gourley who wrote, ‘Hi Joe, I read with great interest your article written on 26th June 2015. I was born in Coaltown and my uncles, John and Tom, kept racing pigeons in the 40s and 50s. I occasionally took young pigeons in a basket on the back of my bike along to Dysart and released them. Looking back I think my uncle was being kind to me and allowing me to believe that I was helping to train them!! I am writing you for a different reason, however, and hope that you may supply me with the answer to the identification of a substance which I have found in a shed in my garden and which has been there for about 25 years. I think it may be magnetite and I know there is a vague connection with pigeons and the previous owner of our cottage was a pigeon fancier. The substance looks a bit like iron filings, is very heavy, glistens slightly, is not soluble in water and is an absolute mystery to anyone I have asked. Could it have been added to the peas in small quantities to enhance the pigeons' homing performance? In short, though, could it be magnetite? To go back to my Coaltown connection, I was born there in 1935 and left at age about 15. I now live in Ceres, regards Ian’. My reply to Ian was as follows ‘Good to hear that your uncles kept the pigeons away back in the 40 and 50's and even taking the birds to Dysart on a bike was quite an experience one that you have not forgotten about. Regarding the Magnetite, this is Iron and maybe the previous owner put a piece of this in the drinker for the birds. Things have changed now but away back then this could have been one way of the pigeons getting this iron supplement. The internet says the following; Magnetite is best known for its property of being strongly attracted to magnets. Some forms of Magnetite from specific localities are in fact themselves magnets. Commonly known as Lodestone, this magnetic form of Magnetite is the only mineral that is a natural magnet. Due to the magnetism of Lodestone, small iron particles are often found clinging to its surfaces. (Some dealers may even intentionally place metallic filings on a Lodestone to demonstrate its magnetism.) Magnetite may form a yellow-brown rust coating if washed or kept in a moist area. If a specimen is washed, it should be dried to prevent rusting. Rust can easily be removed by soaking the Magnetite in a rust-removing solvent such as Iron Out. The mineral Hematite is known to form pseudo morphs over Magnetite. Such pseudo morphs are commonly known as Martite, and their appearance may be very similar to regular Magnetite. However, they differ from Magnetite in that they are only weakly attracted to magnetic fields, and have a reddish-brown streak. Bo’ness Breeder Buyer Sale Received a reminder from Martyn Brown regarding the Bo'ness Homing Society Breeder Buyer sale to be held in their club house (post code is EH51 0JU). This will take place this Sunday 16th April (Easter Sunday) with viewing at 12 noon and the sale starting at 1pm. The sale is open to any fancier anywhere if they wish to participate and everyone entering MUST send in all the performances of the young birds which will be judged by independent panel. Prize money is £500 for breeder and £500 for buyer with all opening bids for birds on offer at £25. There are 40 young birds promised for the sale from some of the top names in the country. Good SNFC Birds This week’s pigeons come from 3 different regions starting with John McNeill of Broxburn with his mealy hen SU13CA 2832 who has won 3 section prizes in the SNFC with 2 of these being from the longest race point and she just requires one more section prize from over the channel to obtain a SNFC Silver Award. In 2015 she won 33rd section D from Billericay a distance of 340 miles. She was then sent to Ancenis a distance of 600 miles and she won 6th section D 57th open then last year 2016 she was again sent to the Ancenis race point and won 6th section D 52nd open. Our second pigeon is a chequer pied cock SU13ML 325 raced by Double SNFC Nantes winner Jim Sanderson of Pathhead. In 2014 flying from the inland national from Maidstone a distance of 353 miles he won 383rd open however did not gain a section prize. Then in 2015 he was entered into the Claremont race point and won 20th section B 56th open flying 503 miles. Then in 2016 he was entered into the Gold Cup race from Reims and won 7th section B 26th open flying 545 miles. We wish John and Jim all the best with their pigeons and hope the above birds can obtain an SNFC Silver Award in 2017. My next pigeon highlighted is a blue bar hen SU13L 3343 raced by Mr A Nelson of Hamilton in 2015 she won 18th section E from the Billericay race point a distance of 342 miles the following year she was entered into the Buckingham race a distance of 288 miles and she again won a section prize being 67th section E. Later the same season she was entered to Ypres a distance of 445 miles and she won 11th section E 101st open from an entry of 2323 birds. Joe’s Joke The Scottish High Court has ruled that there cannot be a Nativity Scene at Holyrood the home of the Scottish Parliament this year. This isn't for any religious reason - they simply have not been able to find three wise men in there and the search for a Virgin continues…….However, there was no problem finding enough donkeys to fill the stable. *************************************************************************************************************************************************************** Kids in Church 3 year old Reese ‘Our Father, who does Art in Heaven, Harold is His name, Amen' Please continue to keep the news flowing; to Joe Murphy Mystical Rose Cottage 2 Flutorum Avenue Thornton by Kirkcaldy KY1 4BD or phone 01592 770331 or Email to joejmurphy1@gmail.com REMEMBER THE J IN THE MIDDLE or log onto www.elimarpigeons.com www.fancierchat.co.uk and www.pigeon-chat.co.uk also www.pigeonbasics.com Pigeon Racing the Basics who wish my weekly contribution portfolio on pigeon topics from Scotland. © Compiled by Joe Murphy

Mornin folks :drinking-coffee-200:

Fifer will be late this morning he is out Polishing his New loft :emoticon-0136-giggle:

Mornin all :drinking-coffee-200:

Brilliant Archie now for the new birds and the new Franz Wols hope you are a happy man Ian

The Joe Murphy Column Received an email from Trevor Jenkin with the following ‘Dear Joe, On behalf of Harvey, his Mum & Dad and the Members of The Penzance Premier Racing Pigeon Club , we would all like to thank you so much for donating young birds to enable us to raise funds towards Harvey's much needed life changing operation. Harvey's Mum & Dad have been overwhelmed by the kindness and compassion shown to their son by Pigeon Fanciers and wish to thank them all from the bottom of their hearts, yours in sport Trevor Jenkin Vice Chairman, Penzance Premier Racing Pigeon Club. I also received an email from Elimar telling me my youngsters were purchased by a fancier in Oxford and I wish them well with these F & J Vandenheede birds. Bo’ness Breeder Buyer Sale Received an email from Martyn Brown with some details of the above sale which will take place in Bo'ness homing society club house the post code is EH51 0JU. This will take place on Sunday 16th April (Easter Sunday) with viewing at 12 noon and the sale starting at 1pm. The sale is open to any fancier anywhere if they wish to participate and everyone entering MUST send in all the performances of the young birds which will be judged by independent panel. Prize money is £500 for breeder and £500 for buyer with all opening bids £25. There are 40 young birds promised for the sale from top names like; John McNeill, Angus Orr & sons, Peter Keogh, Hugh Gormley, Cowan & Berry, R McGill and sons, John Bosworth, Sinclair Thomson & son, Hamish Ferguson, Tom McLeod and George Hunter & son to name but a few. Many thanks’ for all your help Joe yours Martyn’ Thornton Liberation Site Would ALL club officials who intend to use Thornton Recreation Park as a race point in 2017, please contact me as soon as possible. Fife Council requires the following information. Race dates; Organisations; Federation officials name/ address and insurance details. These items MUST be provided by Easter Sunday as I have to put the relevant information in writing to the council. If you do not adhere to the above you will not be allowed onto Fife Council Property. You will get my details at the end of the column Joe Murphy. Good SNFC Birds This week I highlight 2 pigeons from the loft of David Jamieson of East Calder with the first a chequer hen SU13CA 3436 this hen won 4th section 74th open from an entry of 3395 birds at Billericay in 2015 flying 337 miles that same season she won 16th section D 246th open from Eastbourne flying 388 miles (this was the comeback race instead of Ypres) and competed 2494 birds. Then in 2016 she was sent to Buckingham a distance of 287 miles and she won 12th section D 296th open. David’s second pigeon is a chequer cock SU13CA 3457 this cock has won 4 section prizes so far. He won 24th section D 277th open from Billericay in 2015 that same year he was entered into the Eastbourne race winning 13th section D 209th open and this same year he went to his 3rd national race of the season to Clermont a distance of 514 miles and he won 1st section D 30th open against an entry of 1547 birds. In 2016 he was sent to the Buckingham race and won 33rd section D so has proven that he is a very consistent pigeon. Our next pigeon is flown by Davie Clark of Methil and is a chequer hen SU14F 3613. In 2015 she was entered into the Billericay race a distance of 347 miles and she won 75th section C 232nd open against 3395 birds then in 2016 she scored twice in the national with the first bring from Buckingham a distance of 301 miles to win 17th section C 99th open from an entry of 2084 birds. The 2 weeks later she won 3rd section C 6th open from Littlehampton a distance of 386 miles flying against an entry of 4482 birds. This week’s Pictures This week’s photographs are of the following the blue hen is Nell’s Girl raced by Turpie & McCord of Pitlessie in Fife she won 22nd section C 90th open SNFC Clermont in 2014. Then in 2016 she won 22nd section C 58th open from SNFC Ypres and in the same season she won 4th section C 16th open SNFC Roye. Our next 3 pictures were all taken at the SHU Show with the 3 fanciers being Ian Gilmour of Leven; Brian Kinnear of Pitlessie and Jocky Scott of Kennoway who won 1st SNFC Roye in 2016. The next picture is of another Fifer in Eric Reed of Dunfermline who was helping out at the show with the last but not least a photograph of Eddie McGhee presenting John Hodgson of Annan with his trophy. Eddie McGhee with John Hodgson Eric Reed of Dunfermline Ian Gilmour Brian Kinnear & Jock Scott Joe’s Joke Creation; A man said to his wife one day, 'I don't know how you can be so stupid and so beautiful all at the same time. 'The wife responded, 'Allow me to explain. God made me beautiful so you would be attracted to me; God made me stupid so I would be attracted to you! Please continue to keep the news flowing; to Joe Murphy Mystical Rose Cottage 2 Flutorum Avenue Thornton by Kirkcaldy KY1 4BD or phone 01592 770331 or Email to joejmurphy1@gmail.com REMEMBER THE J IN THE MIDDLE or log onto www.elimarpigeons.com www.fancierchat.co.uk and www.pigeon-chat.co.uk also www.pigeonbasics.com Pigeon Racing the Basics who wish my weekly contribution portfolio on pigeon topics from Scotland. © Compiled by Joe Murphy

Thanks folks this is the earliest I have had YBs for a long time and very pleased with them :emoticon-0136-giggle:

Here are my first babies newly weaned.

Happy Birthday Davy and Brian have a nice one :drinking-coffee-200: :drinking-coffee-200:

Permitherin

Wrong Peter PROFIT is guaranteed :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

At least you are trying something Steven my comments are aimed at those who do NOTHING but blame everyone & everything else PM me what you are using

Survey results on YBs, reason and questions Conclusion No survey is proof positive on anything it is just an indication of the participants views used to inform others that something might be beneficial Critics After reading the questions asked I would like to ask the writers: What have you done to help with this problem? Have you seen the stats and evidence on all the products you buy? Have you seen the stats and evidence for the illegal vaccines you are using? Testing using friends and trialists who get it free says nothing to me! What other survey have you seen that has published all its results? And asked trialists in advance to publish their results when it suits them without being checked and verified first? Future So you would prefer no survey or trials unless you get scientific proof? Sorry it's not going to happen. Permitherin Scientific proof for Permitherin is available See this link http://www.inchem.org/documents/ehc/ehc/ehc94.htm#SubSectionNumber:1.1.1 Vaccination I see vaccination is being questioned I know for a FACT some who have vaccinated properly and some who do not vaccinate are in the same boat. Under counter products Have you ever thought how much damage your illegal vaccines and antibiotics are doing to your birds year after year? Future help What other company or individual is helping with this problem unless they are making and selling a cure which does not come with a guarantee? Except you will not get your money back!! Survey reason Let’s be honest about this; the survey was started with my quest to find out why some get it and some don’t, nothing more and nothing less. Everyone that has chosen to take part did so willingly. Everyone has paid for the product all the same price (some more) depending where they got it but no one has been induced to give good feed back with freebies or any other incentive i.e. (pals, friends, mates, relations) I am NOT producing a Miracle prevention. The product has been on the market for years. I have just brought it to your attention. It is a tried and tested product approved by WHO (World Health Organization) I am a pigeon fancier trying to find help for our birds but if you can do better please feel free to try, let us see your info and results and testing. Testing Laboratory testing costs are expensive. Field testing costs are horrendous and will NEVER be done for pigeons so if that is what you are looking for you’re NOT going to see it. Why would we need this Laboratory testing done? It is a proven product since the early 70's and approved for use against insects (if this is the cause?) The 2017 trialists will soon give us an answer. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Results Results by people most of whom I do not know Thanks to all who are willing to try something to help our birds. The cost involved won’t break the bank but might!! just might help. Reasons given Stress, Basketing, Transporters, Dogs, Kids, BOP, washing on the line on race day and all the other excuses are NOT the problem. Why do we have street pigeons living in our cities? Surely they would be subject to more stress than our birds. Why are wild birds not affected by this entire stress scenario? I know of other birds that suffer stress (Budgies, Pheasants) when caged or caught and if it occurs they usually die very quickly with no other signs. My theory Laziness and ignorance. Useless info Doing nothing but criticizing them that are trying to help does nothing. Doing the same thing time and time again will NEVER give you a different result. Mouthing off about never having it and doing nothing will not protect you. 2017 results I look forward to the next few months to see what the trialists have to say. The survey is Open, Transparent and above board also OPEN to all, so don’t see what all the criticism is about. Why not join in and try to help yourself and others find an answer to this problem then we might !! just might see our transporters with increased birdage and getting better returns, making more money for the Fed / Clubs and maybe reduced cost to us? Ian McKay “Kingslea†Kingswells Aberdeen AB15 8SL Tel: 01224 741028

Well done Celtic 5 - 0 and not finished :drinking-coffee-200: :drinking-coffee-200: Well done Celtic 5 - 0 and not finished :drinking-coffee-200: :drinking-coffee-200: