RoryTheRed

I've just bought two of these mid 80's mags from ebay, didn't know anything about them. Anyone got any going?

Nothing in this weeks fancy press regarding my Ten Easy Ways to Make Money; i did send it in on Easter Monday, so maybe it will be in nx week. Pleased to have bought the BHW this week, all about M & D Evans ( like watching a film on Channel 5, ads, ads, ads etc ), must of costed them a bomb to advertise all those pages, but with ybs starting at £100 each i'm sure these shrewd businessmen will recoup their outlay

Let's see if the BHW & RP print it. I sent it in by email on Monday. Great to see the comments from genuine fliers

I posted the above on pigeon chat and it was pulled inside ten mins! Just like to add: We have thousands of birds lost year after year, birds with defects and prone to disease because the stock have never been proven in races or their youngsters never tested. Too many sellers and not enough racers in the game now! I have no quibble with top lofts with results to back up their sales; its the b******s who purchase the birds just make some easy money at the expense of others.

Thanks Brian for your valuable insight.

How To Make Money In Pigeons! 1. Research the market. 2. Consumers want latest fashion and fancy colours. 3. Buy from fashionable winning loft/s of the latest craze, make sure the name starts with ‘VAN’. Get these as cheap as possible, buy as many eggs at end of season and put under your duff racers/feeders. Do same with the colours White & Grizzle. 4. On no occasion must these pigeons be allowed their freedom, they are your future wealth. 5. Get a friendly scribe to write a winter report on your loft and your new superior bloodlines; have pictures taken of the colours. If you fail with scribe, then join all internet pigeon sites and post pictures of the colours and Van’s with family history of past winnings. Make sure you mention large cash winnings and nationally known fliers who race with your famous names. 6. Farm your product under your racers/feeders. Take pictures of babies ( colours are best ) and post them on internet sites with Headers - RACING WHITE/GRIZZLE BABIES RELATED TO 26 NATIONAL WINNERS or THE MONEYMAKERS OF RIP VAN WINKLE. Price them at £50 per bird or £90 a pair. 7. Post an ad on internet sites ( Don’t use fancy press, too expensive ) “ Due to personal reasons you are unable to race this year so all ybs must be sold” Sell in racing kits of 6 or 12, £300 for 6 or £540 for 12. 8. Aim for an average of £45 per bird. 9. In August post ads again for latebreds bred from your superior bloodlines with Headers -LAST CHANCE TO RE-STOCK YOUR LOFT FOR NEXT YEAR or NATIONAL WINNING BLOODLINES FOR ONLY £45. 10. Count your cash. Assuming you started with 12 pair of breeders, bred 6 ybs from each and farmed 6 pair of eggs to feeders with a 100% hatch rate you would of made £540 per pair at the average of £45 per bird. £540 x 12 = £6480 Nice little tax free, low risk sideline anyone can try. PS: This scam works best if you have no personal attachment to pigeons and no conscience. Yours Sincerely WANNAMAKEABUCK LOFTS.

Looking good Ben 8) Really like the bronze, i take that one

Topman Ben, credit to the sport. Good on you mate 8)

The Blackpool edition was in a sealed seethrough sleeve. Being an ex newsagent i can tell you that security boxes had to be used for all newspapers and magazines unless you went to the depot and collected yourself; these boxes are weatherproof and secure, but i can only speak for myself.

Maybe i win this lottery ;D I'm in

Blue Sky all the way in Brighton

Nearly caught me out from Kingsdown last week, 1990 vel, be there early today. ;D

South Coast Fed Truro 7.45 in a light west wind.

Provisional Result Op Sec Name and Town Pigeon M Y AFT YPM MPM 1 ES1 Mr & Mrs J Peters of Hornchurch GB01J04747 708 252 27:18:40 760.577 695.472 2 ES2 Woodall & Cox of Dover GB03B09698 673 1551 27:43:00 713.188 652.139 3 ES3 Woodall & Cox of Dover GB03B09655 673 1551 32:34:00 606.976 555.019 4 CS1 Mr & Mrs M Bunney of Portsmouth GB04N60342 669 1504 33:04:04 594.206 543.342 5 CS2 J Tyerman of Bracklesham Bay GB01J56892 661 382 32:43:02 592.828 542.082 6 CS3 T & J Bernard (2) of Waterlooville GB04J47994 670 59 33:17:46 590.289 539.760 7 ES4 Mr & Mrs S Rhodes of Aylesham GB03N52214 678 1571 34:34:26 575.989 526.684 8 ES5 J Nicholson & Sons of Rochester GB04N21114 692 208 36:24:12 557.700 509.961 9 CS4 A & T Deacon of Waterlooville GB02N51544 672 287 35:41:09 552.510 505.215 10 ES6 Mr & Mrs J Peters of Hornchurch GB03J29194 708 252 37:45:26 550.152 503.059 11 CS5 T & J Bernard (1) of Portsmouth GB02J39418 670 204 36:14:47 542.309 495.887 12 ES7 Mr & Mrs S Rhodes of Aylesham GB03N52224 678 1571 37:23:29 532.587 486.998 13 ES8 Mr & Mrs S Rhodes of Aylesham GB00J15400 678 1571 39:09:32 508.548 465.016

South Coast Fed Kingsdown - 8.45am in a light west wind.

Blinded by sunshine in Brighton, slight west wind.

Jump to it Rose! Get well soon

Thanks Alf ;D

I remember a thread that had the correct wording for a lottery grant request for ETS; searched here but still can't find it, can anyone help me please with the correct wording needed for a request for a grant. Thanks in advance. Rory

You a doctor Vic?

We race the fed programme for channel races, though this was changed once it was decided to go with the SMT. Club racing for me is only about getting birds fit for the channel and educating yb's.

I have posted elsewhere regarding this problem. The South Coast Fed is in the same situation, we are transported with the SMT over the channel at higher expense than the BICC. I shall go to the AGM and propose that The South Coast Fed should become an inland racing fed only for the future of the Federation. I'm situated in Brighton and Newton Abbot is near on 200miles to me and we can basket on a Friday Night without any problems, this is as far as we need to go for 16wks of the year. 66 -200MILES races every week would ensure a profit for the fed each week and if we allow yb's to be raced in June as well, we would have full transporters nearly every week right upto September. I prefer channel racing and fly with the BICC not my fed, this isn't my way of securing sprint racing for myself; this is the way of securing a federation in this region, channel racing in our region has the NFC, BBC, BICC, CSCFC & LSECC to fulfill their needs and at a cheaper outlay than our own fed. Channel fliers usually belong to at least one of the above clubs so they rarely supoort the fed races and i don't see areason why inland racers should support a few who send to the channel. Eleven inland races with upto 2500 birds most weeks compared to five channels with max 850 first channel race down to 250 if they are lucky from last race. The profit from the inland races are then ate up by the charges for the channel events and maybe the fed will break even again! Enough is enough, time to make a profit each year to cover the costs of fuel, insurance, holdovers etc....Finally, with inland racing you can always delay basketing, or move racepoints due to the weather forecast; most fanciers just want to race each week from April-Sept.

TOURS 1ST BIRD VERIFICATIONS UP TO 16.45 Provisional Result Op Sec Name and Town Pigeon Miles Yard AFT YPM 1 ES1 M Sheehy of Maidstone GB06N54120 266 1657 05:22:23 1457.324 2 ES2 B A Baxter of Thunderley GB05J39057 289 1312 05:51:01 1452.786 3 ES3 Gladwin & Jarvis of Leigh-On-Sea GB06N55312 289 1752 05:56:18 1432.478 4 ES4 J. Hemmings of Rochford GB05A36943 290 1341 05:58:00 1429.444 5 ES5 Meg Murray of Burnham-on-Crouch GB05J05447 294 69 06:03:31 1423.618 6 ES6 D Wilton & Son of Chadwell St Mary GB06N98285 283 851 05:52:50 1414.070 7 ES7 M/M K Turner & R Ryder of Fingringhoe GB04J13031 307 1635 06:23:18 1413.919 8 ES8 Lee Bastone of Burnham on Crouch GB06J32186 293 1172 06:05:56 1412.421 9 ES9 D Heywood & Son of Laindon GB05T20525 291 13 06:03:14 1410.039 10 ES10 Packer & Clarke of Grays GB05N49863 284 724 05:55:09 1409.444 11 ES11 Mr Paul Butcher of Shepherdswell GB05N69353 263 536 05:28:50 1409.273 12 ES12 Ronald Reason of Mannigtree GB05J34047 314 1721 06:35:36 1401.317 13 ES13 R Dove of Ashford GB06J02333 258 1049 05:27:10 1391.123 14 ES14 R Hyde of Hullbridge GB04B62291 292 1470 06:11:00 1389.191 15 ES15 Mr Melvyn Brown of Rochford GB06N99657 290 1403 06:10:58 1379.647 16 ES16 M Bacon & R Whipps of Orsett GB05N74291 285 1259 06:04:39 1379.018 17 ES17 Colin Seago of Lowestoft GB03L36814 353 497 07:33:03 1372.425 18 ES18 Kipling Partners of Malden GB06N02573 301 1212 06:27:15 1371.135 19 ES19 L & K Buddle of Dover GB04N45901 260 543 05:36:05 1363.183 20 ES20 Harvey & Coward-Talbott of Bowers Gifford GB05J04843 289 1117 06:14:21 1361.712 21 ES21 J Nicholls of Southend-On-Sea GB05X39481 289 569 06:15:37 1355.661 22 ES22 Mr F J Cornwell of Southend-on-Sea GB05J10290 288 544 06:14:40 1354.335 23 ES23 C Simmons of Basildon GB05J42079 290 1369 06:19:19 1349.187 24 ES24 Mr & Mrs Dyer of Lowestoft GB04K14479 356 333 07:44:43 1348.979 25 ES25 Mr H King of Chatham GB05J49066 276 1124 06:00:58 1348.834 26 ES26 Mr C Smith of Ipswich GB03H45779 322 985 07:02:33 1343.521 27 ES27 Barrie Myhill of Dover GB06N16901 261 233 05:42:15 1342.858 28 ES28 D Hales of Hockley GB04L68289 292 1558 06:23:57 1342.565 29 ES29 J A House & Son of Basildon GB06N68273 290 507 06:23:48 1331.180 29 ES29 J A House & Son of Basildon GB06N68273 290 507 06:23:48 1331.180 31 ES31 A B Coker of Battlesbridge, Wickford GB06J20832 292 1711 06:28:22 1327.691 32 ES32 H. Wright of Upminster GB04V08531 288 1048 06:24:43 1320.265 33 CS1 Mr & Mrs R & C Bradford of Farndish BELG032110762 343 355 07:37:52 1319.238 34 ES33 Mark Bulled of Harlow GB06L33307 303 486 06:44:38 1319.135 35 ES34 Trevor Sheavills of Ashford GB03A41584 259 126 05:46:00 1317.821 36 ES35 Mr & Mrs J Cheverst of Gravesend GB06J26004 279 1621 06:14:58 1313.879 37 ES36 Mr & Mrs R Hume of Rochford GB06N90648 291 1173 06:31:46 1310.303 38 ES37 Mr & Mrs G Bates & Son of Gravesend GB05N41074 280 142 06:16:19 1309.913 39 ES38 Patrick Dempsey of Dover GB04T03393 265 873 05:57:00 1308.888 40 ES39 T E Beagrie of Braintree GB05J24360 311 1491 07:00:02 1306.684 41 ES40 Mr & Mrs D Reis of Colchester GB05N26196 310 337 06:58:02 1305.965 42 ES41 M/M S Wakerley of Basildon GB05J31862 289 640 06:31:01 1302.451 43 ES42 Mr M. Cowell & Son of Ramsgate GB06N21450 274 1327 06:11:28 1301.778 44 ES43 C Hoskins of Bexleyheath GB06T34001 284 793 06:25:20 1299.221 45 ES44 Paul Walder of Sheerness GB06N45666 279 210 06:18:35 1297.601 46 ES45 M Abram & Partners of Bucklesham GB05V38267 322 488 07:17:52 1295.390 47 ES46 B P Buttigies of Tilbury GB06V29916 282 1637 06:24:38 1294.628 48 ES47 Gosling & Jarvis of Mountlessing GB04N73659 295 1627 06:42:50 1292.909 49 ES48 Mr & Mrs Tofts of Bishops Stortford GB04N67159 314 1146 07:08:35 1292.131 50 ES49 Mr & Mrs B Hammond of Stowmarket GB02L97700 331 996 07:31:51 1291.482 Op Sec Name and Town Pigeon Miles Yard AFT YPM 51 ES50 Paul Reynolds of Manningtree GB05X18848 315 1156 07:10:30 1290.490 52 ES51 Mr & Mrs Marler of Buntingford GB04Z48123 317 238 07:13:35 1287.314 53 ES52 M Stevens of Gravesend GB04N58201 279 886 06:22:10 1287.203 54 ES53 C Salmon of Woodbridge GB05X419661 325 535 07:25:03 1286.451 55 ES54 C Allwright & Son of Ashford GB06N81221 261 368 05:59:00 1280.579 56 ES55 H & P Archibald of Dover GB06N58950 259 1517 05:58:29 1275.811 57 ES56 E G Dickens & Son of Stanford Le Hope GB04N36885 287 192 06:37:12 1272.185 58 ES57 B & R Long & Cox of nr Stowmarket GB06E01099 336 26 07:45:11 1271.297 59 ES58 A J Turner of Dover 265 755 06:08:09 1268.926 60 ES59 N B Smith of Colchester GB05N22696 309 684 07:11:07 1263.055 61 ES60 George Fletcher of Margate GB06R02816 278 1481 06:29:09 1261.110 62 ES61 J P J Gladwin of Southend-On-Sea GB05N68740 289 491 06:43:58 1260.329 63 ES62 L&S Swallow & Grandson of Knettishall GB05N82429 346 335 08:05:00 1256.278 64 ES63 J Searle of Gt Abington GB05N59785 327 547 07:38:53 1255.367 65 ES64 Paul Spiers of Southend-on-Sea GB06J11637 289 254 06:46:13 1252.765 66 ES65 J Donovan & Sons of South Croydon GB05N56114 276 1270 06:29:28 1250.505 67 ES66 W A Reeve & Family of Ipswich GB04X57339 324 929 07:37:00 1249.823 68 ES67 D Bullen & Son of New Addington GB04N38685 276 1286 06:29:51 1249.316 69 ES68 J Childs & Sons of Wickford GB02J06138 292 485 06:51:56 1248.758 70 ES69 Craig, Dobson & McAndrew of Southend on Sea GB03J49968 288 288 06:47:31 1244.533 71 ES70 T. E. Skeet of Woodbridge GB03X60408 330 654 07:47:18 1244.284 72 ES71 Mr & Mrs W Miles of Erith GB05P17256 283 1523 06:42:00 1242.794 73 ES72 Glass Bros & Partner of Hadleigh GB03X17373 322 792 07:36:45 1242.500 74 ES73 R Quinnell & A Richards of Frindsbury GB06F2563 278 649 06:35:04 1240.117 75 ES74 K G Pratt of Thundersley GB04V38613 289 470 06:51:00 1238.710 76 CS2 Walter Castledine of Farnham GB06H35198 274 363 06:29:55 1237.708 77 CS3 SymondsSpenceEason&Knight of Brighton GB05N99648 242 608 05:45:00 1236.313 78 ES75 Hermitage Bros. of South Ockendon GB05T35363 285 923 06:46:43 1235.560 79 ES76 D Griggs of Corringham GB05N45765 287 744 06:49:39 1234.869 80 ES77 Mr & Mrs R & I Elliott of Chadwell Heath GB05N91741 291 259 06:55:15 1234.001 81 ES78 Mr & Mrs E Streatfield of Snodland GB06K00859 273 985 06:31:22 1230.215 82 ES79 J Magee of Hoddesdon GB05J48708 303 1677 07:15:57 1227.106 83 ES80 Pat Newell of Billericay GB05N98758 293 141 07:00:34 1226.490 84 ES81 Mr & Mrs W Cowper & Son of Nr Rochester GB05S06236 279 254 06:40:52 1225.580 85 ES82 D Osborne & Son of Ipswich GB05L13467 325 971 07:48:55 1221.904 86 CS4 Kirk Hames of Reading GB05J08287 289 811 06:57:23 1220.583 87 ES83 D Schofield & M Greetham of Stanford Le Hope GB06N24943 286 546 06:53:31 1218.587 88 CS5 D.M.J. Hughes of Windsor GB04J44190 289 1156 06:58:31 1218.102 89 ES84 R Bingley of Newport GB03J06754 318 1695 07:41:18 1216.941 90 ES85 Peter Hutchings of Newmarket GB06N06042 330 927 07:58:47 1215.011 91 CS6 Khan Bros. of New Malden GB05J39259 280 884 06:47:00 1212.983 92 ES86 J. Harris & Dtr of Dagenham GB06H21832 289 1165 07:00:50 1211.418 93 WS1 Ivan Mills of Winterborne Stickland GB06V46363 274 238 06:38:34 1210.533 94 ES87 Mr Paul Green of Dover GB06P13347 265 1070 06:27:54 1205.130 95 CS7 Mr & Mrs C Lever of Romsey GB01R44208 269 407 06:34:21 1201.590 96 ES88 D Abbott of Basildon GB05N85751 290 1353 07:07:48 1196.244 97 CS8 Mr S Sheffield of Old Windsor GB05N79236 289 1368 07:06:26 1195.985 98 CS9 R Adams of Puckeridge GB05N19946 313 1308 07:42:00 1195.212 99 CS10 Mr & Mrs P Pattenden of Luton GB03L38869 315 1198 07:45:00 1194.834 100 CS11 Hudson Nash & Sonny of Sandhurst GB06J06259 282 1411 06:57:37 1191.837 101 CS12 Mr & Mrs Chaplin of Woking GB06N93383 280 1070 06:55:32 1188.521 102 ES89 C Patmore of Saffron Walden GB02N29516 317 435 07:49:51 1188.369 103 CS13 R. Lowe of Caversham, Reading GB01B02521 292 1634 07:18:17 1176.303 Op Sec Name and Town Pigeon Miles Yard AFT YPM 104 CS14 S.E. Jones of Enfield GB05L37560 296 913 07:24:00 1175.390 105 CS15 P O'Donnell of Kingston-on-Thames GB06N58494 282 176 07:03:43 1171.764 106 ES90 D. Smart of Nazeing GB05N32803 302 1257 07:36:05 1168.157 107 CS16 D Robinson of Guildford GB04X23225 275 743 06:55:34 1166.463 108 CS17 D Sheppard of Chessington GB06N24438 279 850 07:01:50 1166.077 109 CS18 Mr & Mrs J Willis of Reading WHU05T04087 292 1006 07:21:55 1165.211 110 ES91 Mr J Davis & Son of Hackney GB05J01831 289 1353 07:22:55 1151.442 111 CS19 M & M T Chard of Reading GB06N17864 290 647 07:24:37 1149.410 112 CS20 E G Brown of Wallingford GB03J15370 303 933 07:45:39 1147.241 113 ES92 D.J. Brown of Shepherdswell, Dover GB05X58781 263 1731 06:45:19 1146.291 114 CS21 E Ilsley of Wantage GB03X45145 308 497 07:53:20 1146.289 115 CS22 M/M E Jones & G'Son of Newbury GB04N73925 292 1637 07:29:52 1146.022 116 CS23 Mr&Mrs Dickinson&Sons of Hemel Hempstead GB05N21973 306 249 07:54:45 1134.932 117 ES93 A J Hadlow of Whitstable GB04N19185 273 18 07:05:00 1130.584 118 ES94 C W Lawrence of Tilbury GB05N53827 282 1315 07:21:11 1127.955 119 CS24 Miss S Jorro of Sandhurst GB05J15372 282 600 07:20:44 1127.484 120 CS25 Lloyd & Kelly & Sparkes of Steventon GB06N03614 307 677 08:00:14 1126.529 121 CS26 A Stevens of Ashford GB03J55886 284 762 07:26:23 1121.462 122 CS27 K Abbott of Brighton GB06N18741 244 271 06:23:29 1120.547 123 CS28 B Chupka of Reading GB02N44874 292 484 07:39:49 1118.715 124 CS29 Mr & Mrs Watson & Son of Ashford GB05R29833 284 670 07:29:28 1113.564 125 CS30 Mr W E Huggins of Reading GB05N30579 293 14 07:44:53 1109.298 126 CS31 R Miles & Dtr. & Son of Southwick GB06X51903 243 1049 06:27:55 1105.209 127 CS32 Mr & Mrs Bob Baldwin Jnr of Camberley GB04N54191 277 1413 07:23:58 1101.283 128 CS33 Mr & Mrs V J Durrant & Sons of Godalming GB05J00813 269 718 07:10:58 1100.220 129 ES95 Fred P Broadbridge of Chislehurst GB05N22216 280 1627 07:30:32 1097.426 130 CS34 A.G. Muir of Abinger Hammer GB06J22667 270 835 07:14:25 1095.803 131 CS35 Tracy Andrew of Brighton GB04N43219 241 423 06:29:05 1091.239 132 ES96 M G Mitchell of Dover GB06N32731 262 689 07:03:20 1090.887 133 CS36 K A Wise of Isleworth GB06N03501 286 139 07:41:55 1090.021 134 CS37 Crammond & Langstaff of Fontwell NL041643308 248 769 06:41:28 1089.129 135 CS38 Mr & Mrs K Cooper of Liss GB04N88243 263 809 07:07:47 1083.934 136 ES97 A Mackensie & Dtrs. of Chelmsford GB03J17748 300 244 08:09:50 1078.416 137 ES98 F & T Zahra & Son of Gillingham GB02X24307 276 1201 07:39:00 1060.917 138 CS39 Mr E Higginbottom of Sandhurst GB06J00630 282 583 07:48:37 1060.361 139 CS40 Mr & Mrs B Wall of Havant GB03N41739 252 1133 06:59:28 1060.044 140 CS41 N. Rigiani of nr Salisbury GB06N30707 282 485 07:51:42 1053.222 141 CS42 P Priddle of Southampton GB05N52216 261 397 07:19:55 1045.100 142 CS43 M. Eason & Son of Lancing GB05V30978 244 222 06:54:43 1036.037 143 ES99 B C Williams of Westmarsh, Ash GB04J18063 272 506 07:42:42 1035.716 144 ES100 Mr J Woodley of Catford GB04T30740 283 541 08:03:54 1030.422 145 CS44 P.J. Campbell of Basingstoke GB04Z97206 279 621 07:57:13 1030.268 146 ES101 Mr & Mrs H J Kennett of Orpington GB06N99914 276 973 08:06:40 1000.136 147 ES102 P Price Loft 2 of Canterbury, GB06 32912 263 561 07:53:15 979.273 148 CS45 Novis & Son of Brighton GB06C76922 242 624 07:17:53 974.104 149 CS46 David Wells of Bordon GB03N26332 267 1400 08:04:00 973.802 150 ES103 L Howe of New Romney GB06N04084 249 432 07:34:12 965.812 151 CS47 Fred Healey of Telescoomb Cliffs GB06K14924 238 1434 07:17:14 961.304 152 CS48 Tom O'Leary of Denmead GB05J35629 256 1042 07:58:26 943.918 153 CS49 P O'Leary of Lovedean GB06N84003 257 120 08:00:15 942.093 154 CS50 J Fisher of Waterlooville GB05N53355 255 1296 08:03:54 930.143 155 CS51 M Tyrrell of Brighton GB04H70677 241 1365 07:51:54 901.727 156 CS52 K & J Zerafa of Portsmouth MALTA04-050213 250 6 08:08:16 901.159

BICC Pau International lib 1pm in a light SE wind.

BICC The Tours birds were liberated at 08.30 in a west wind and the convoyer said that they cleared well.