I have watched this discuction with interest and anger ,what right does anyone have to say who is a good Or bad fancier , I was at the bottom of the sheet last week ,as I'm most. Weeks ,I've had my moments As most fanciers do ,there is only one winner every week the rest are losers ,so keep in mind that just Maybe the fanciers that never win anything that they keep going for the love of the sport and don't need to be Told how good or how bad they are (myself included) take it from me there ain't many go through life as Winners .so don't be judgemental on the lesser fanciers there are lots of us .