gareth, i am still 19 down from 42 mate, do not think illness was a problem, all birds well look after or would not be in te race basket, think this time controller got it wrong, on here on sat morning someone warn us that 7 eng feds were sitting between kelso and otterburn, now i know we had about 7000 birds that day, but we clash, plus weather in dunbar and eyemouth was realy bad that morning after 10 oclock also,