hahaha ne bother pete,,, a knew where i wud find it ;D ;D ;D well m8 i,m at loggerheadswith mine mine were on natural and 1st few weeks they had perfect feathering and had me hopes built up for them on race day but not a feather 2 b seen ,,,i feed them on diet 2000 and superwidowhood mix and droppins all perfect and cant get me head round it,,,,well av stopped them now cos i was starting 2 drop a few as needed for nxt yr as only got a few old birds left.