lol aarden who dont know heartofengland auctions lol there in the books every week,yea i know mark evans his a top guy met him a few times,aarden thats one thing about pigeon fanciers there normally very sociable guys and from whereva in the country u can always have a gd crack,thats y i cant wait to blackpool!Ronnie always good to know your birds, in my shed i know what family of pigeon reacts to certain weather conditons and race,i also know nearly every pigeon on a one to one basis and know there characters,and i think you need to know your pigeons to become successful thats why im always banging on about how i like my pigeons to be tame on here,yea roundabout is quiet a good method mate.done it a few years they raced okay onit but others have had brillant results on it like geoff kirckland ect,however i raced on it a couple of years and then went back to widowhood,in which we race both cocks and hens.Yea its a brillant experience mate getting a pigeon from the combine/channel,ive never raced south but i get a kick from getting birds from the combine on the north its even better when uve bred a bird to win it like we did here from lerwick.Boy i tell ya you nothing can take away that experience