Not all of the pigeons are disposed of,like i said dave i question there ability if not achieved anything by 2,but if i have a fancy for them like 2 cocks i got this year that havent achieved nowt but are here at the 3 yr old stage,but they have to do the damage and prove me right.These pigeons havent got a card under there belt, while alot of the 2yr olds in my loft have done something, same with alot of the yearlings here. I have a couple more 3 yr olds that are good pigeons and 2 if they go through this year will be going to stock! Its just how we all do things different i think.Wish you the best dave for 2007