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Speight. I for one much enjoyed reading the post. I believe its very much possible it came from someone here in the northwest as they mentioned tradewinds. The general thoughts running on this thread is that 30 ybs are enough. Thats bull crap here in the northwest. We race in arguably the toughest concourse in the USA rated so by the RPB. If you only race 30 ybs here you will not finish the season. For whatever my thoughts are worth please continue posting these tastless ramblings as its been called. To me and others its very valuable information concerning our area. Thanks. Ed

You should still be able to get bands on 10 day old babies. Try a little mineral oil on the leg, maybe even some vasiline will do it. Ed

Its impossible to check just one box as they are all important other than the last three, to me anyway. Ed

300 also for our ybs. Ed

Guess I missed it too. Sorry to see anyone leaving.. Ed

I need to apologyze here I though we were discussing Strange and now realize it was Ganus. Sorry guys, I gotta pay more attention. Ed

Yep I got it. Thanks. Ed

He has always been a great flyer, once he started importing birds and doing well then the common man could no longer afford his birds, I find no fault in the man other than the price of his birds but as they say they gotta be worth it or none would ever buy again. As for me they are much out of my range and I will have to be satisfied with what I have. Over here the 500 to 600 mile races are not common in my part of the country but the few that are there very few ship over 5 or 6 birds and there usually is only a few day birds. Ed Be back later, I gotta run into my daughters basketball game now. Good day all. Ed

Wow I just looked at the views on this topic, over 2100. Man are we creating some interest or what. Its all good. Ed ;D

Yes I am aware of the GFL and there are some of the better fanciers around down there, although it is over 3000 miles away we still hear the good stuff from them. There are several flyers there that claim to be the best in the world or at least here in the states and I suppose they possibly are, but each to his own and I for one enjoy flying in the west rather than way back east, besides its very expensive there and probably beyond my budget.. LOL. Hopefully were are both discussing C. Strange his birds are still bringing top money everywhere. Thanks. Ed

I have used red cell for at least the last 10 years. I buy it by the gallon and add one cap full of it to the water container (1 1/2 gallon), I use it once per week. Ed

Wiley I also have heard that the first round is generally a majority cock birds, its easy to check though, just sex the babies at about 4 days old (like the chicken breeders do) and then you will know for sure. The chicken guys advertize and guarentee 99% accuracy. Ed

pigeonscout, somehow my post go in before yours did and I read it before I replied, not sure how it happened but to re-emphasize I really do like your taming method and will try it.. thanks. Ed

If they go to the field they are missing some sort of vitimin or minerals, try a pigeon supply house and buy several types of minerals for them. I have used damascus dirt which works very well for me. Ed

apple cider vinegar for the PH, Red cell for vitimins and iron, and of course a good garlic tea. Ed

Pigeon scout. In regards to your eye photo. If you say its the best breeding pigeon that ever lived then so be it, from looking at the photo I would say there are indications that the bird is a distance flyer and in very good health. The pupil is a little large but that could just be the picture. With no fifth ring I would not breed from it by the eyesign alone. But as most will acknowledge eyesign is not everything, you must use the whole bird and not by its eye alone. From your saying its the best then I will figure I will be getting more information on the bird and would welcome it. Saffer you said, Could it be we all seem the same, as we evaluate and think about, odds, chances. And most important the hundreds of factors involved besides eyes. I agree with this for myself anyway, I use all kinds of indicators, for me eyesign comes in after I evaluate the pairing and need to cut it a little closer that is when the eye becomes a deciding factor for me. Saffer also wrote, Pair 1 Bred 8 young, 6 Winners in 2003. Eyes must be right Then for 2 years 12 youngsters later, and 1 winner, bad strike rate. Yet eyes, health, loft, food the same. Its pigeon racing, thats all. Here I think you have really hit the head of the nail, few pairs if any will consistantly breed winners in the majority, Its my thoughts that if I get an overall 15% good racers then I am successful. Anyone no matter how they pair up that claim to get much higher percentages I will question. There are clubs that only fly the very short races (under 200 miles), I discount these as they hold no interest for me and I think most pigeons could compete in that kind of racing. Pigeon scout, the taming of the birds is a good one and I shall remember it, I like to feed the ybs by hand at first as this tends to also gentle them down, but I can see where your method could produce very tame birds that would actually fight to get in the hand. Very good informative post. Yours as always. Ed

Pigeon scout. Of course the proof is nice to see. I believe its there if you do as you asked me to do. Jack Barkel has indeed offered proof. This seems to have been overlooked. Not only has Jack had success but his success has extended over onto the masses. I do not believe you would accept any proof you would always find something wrong with it. You sir are a non believer and will unfortunately remain so as your mind is closed to the subject. To me you miss much by disregarding the eye, but I do not hold this against you as you seem to have done well with the way you are going. For me eyesign is not the total way to do anything, but it is one tool for use in evaluating and only one, hopefully this post will be taken in not an adverse way. Ed

Clearing the air. In regards to the two PM I recieved I will say this, I have never claimed to be better than anyone in any way, if what I posted was taken as that than I apologize for that is not the way I meant it to be. I have made many, many mistakes over the years and hopefully I have learned from them, I have made many, many posts on this site and hopefully I have helped some or posted something that stirred interest to others. I will continue to do so until the moderators discontinue my ability to do so. I only post the things I do or have done in the past and would never try to lead anyone down the wrong path. I really do apologize if I have been taken in the wrong way. Good Day to all. Ed Dillon - Pegasus Lofts Puget Sound Concoure, I-5 Combine South West Washington Racers. Centralia, Washington 98532 USA 1-360-291-3908

Pigeonscout. For whats its worth I think this last post of yours is one of the better ones, you don't seem to be talking down to anyone or glorifing you results. Good for you and this is the kind of post that benefit everyone. Actually I didn't say not to pair birds with the same color eye, it was the flyer from belgium that told me that. If you only breed from white eyes then of course you will only have white eyes, it has always been my belief that white eyed birds when paired together will usually breed fast pigeons without much stamina, but beliefs are like *expletive removed* holes everyone has their own.. I am actually not from where ever it is that you are and know absolutely nothing of the area or of the flyers, when you say Hartog it means nothing to me so would have no idea where to look for your results. Please note I did not say you didn't have the results, I said if unverifyable they mean nothing to me. I do not know why you will not post your name, maybe things are much different there and you are fearful someone will retaliate or something. I look forward to more of the same type posts in the future and have always and still believe that each and everyone of us are entitled to believe as they will, but even more important in this day and age we all need to unite and become of one of many who race for the sheer joy of racing. The activists are on the move everywhere, lets all close our fronts and show nothing but unity. My thoughts and maybe only mine. Good day. Ed

Craig. Those are beautiful lofts and after viewing them I would feel far inferior if I posted pix of my lofts.. Ed ;D

I wish all my birds were blue checks. But my favorite color is that first one threw the clock. Ed

Unikon. ETS ... Best system in the world for me anyway. Ed

I believe I will win every race I enter. Of course I don't but I always think I will. ;D

Thats why it doesn't matter as long as your doing the winning, go a couple years without the wins though and then it will suddenly be very important to you.. Ed ;D ;D