Only other info was that two of the birds belonged to the same fella in north wales?? but still cant confirm where lib was, if at all??? I checked also and found the same lib as you??? We still have birds milling around village fields and Mick getting one at Moffat is more than a coincidence as I canny remember ever having a welsh stray in this neck of woods!!! They might have been dragged up into Lancashire originally then again up to the Solway???