Kyleakin Lofts

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My clock is messed already. Feeling really tired when wakening in the dark, etc. Still soon be spring and the cycle will start again.

This sale shall be on site soon. It will run from 1st December through till 10th December. I shall post the information once I receive it from Linda and make contact with the vendors.

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I am not contradicting myself. The grass roots referred to are the individuals who keep and race their pigeons. If at club level they decide on this change and make the effort to attend their Federation AGM to ensure the Federation provides them the change all is good and well, however, ............................... in a Federation of three clubs there may be a good chance of this being effected. in a Federation of 10 clubs the odds stack up more against it. These changes conflict with National programmes. How often have we heard of the wish for Federations to convoy together in an amalgamation to bring pigeons back into the same area? How often has it been effected? How often have we heard about the divisions within a Federation between the National racers and the Federation racers? This is the reason why it has to start at National level. Yes, the grass roots will bring it into effect, but only if they push it through at National level. Federations don't seem to be able to agree to joint convoy, but still want the National to convoy them to the further races, so this is the reason why the change has to start at National level. There is no contradiction, just an expression of logic. Not everyone will agree with that logic, but nevertheless, that logic is my opinion.

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Robert, this is about the only valid reason for such a move and it ties in with Derek Hays thread regarding YB racing time for a change. This is the first year I have raced YB's and it was terrible. I will find out if it was of any use to these YB's next year when I compare them to the un-raced Late-breds. Until then I shall keep my own council.

I also agree, but nevertheless, it is a different matter. Reality of the present time is that Federations use the National for conveying to the longer distances and the National uses the Federations to subsidise their costs. There is no point in looking back to what was, we have to deal with the reality of what is. This is the original post. "The last few years the weather in September and October has been fantastic and this trend is set to continue due to global warming etc. I think its time to change our thinking regarding yb racing.I think we could run 2 yb programs, the traditional one from July to Sept and another from the start of Sept to the end of October/start November.You could half your yb team and send to both programs .The later program helps with avoiding the hawk problem and will make it easier for natural ybs to complete the program without being darkened. The race program meetings will be coming up very soon and this, in my opinion, is definitely food for thought and hopefully will be discussed." We have to discount all the "red herrings". If we think that we require a change and want this change, then YB National held in late October or during July. If we want the other changes mentioned in the later posts, then National water races later in the year and Inlands to suit will cause the Federations to change and the whole Scottish racing programme will change.

That is exactly what should happen. Fractionalisation is the problem. The WHU attempted this, but the RPRA have followed the NWHU. If all the Confederation members had backed the WHU then the ban on racing NWHU YB's would have happened. Maybe still not too late, but not for 2019. Don't know the politics, but it appears the NWHU are the outlaws.

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Have to disagree Roly. The members of the National are the grass roots. If they cause the National to change then the Federations will change to keep in line with the National. The grass roots at Club level will cause their Federations to change to keep in line with the National. It may be different in England where there are Specialist Clubs, International Clubs and three or four Nationals, but Scotland only has two National Clubs. A lot of National minded fliers race in both and hopefully the rift will heal and Scotland will be back to one National. That apart, since it has nothing to do with Derek's original post, a lot of these grass roots members are the same people, so both could change at, or around, the same time. I agree the grass roots would start the change, but they must do it at National level. The Federations are too fractionalised and introverted. They think only of their own back yard and aim to tie what suits them into the National programme. It is at National level where everyone comes together and it is at National level where the change will have to start. If you want this change attend your National AGM and vote it in. Be bold, new ideas mean taking the risk, being a leader and providing the stage for others to follow.

This has to start at National level. If the National race programme is conducive to this change then it will happen. Most Federations attempt to tie in to the National race programme, so it is this that dictates their race programmes, be it for transportation to the longer races or other reasons. The Clubs' members chose the Federation programme that suits their National aspirations. The Unions take nothing to do with it since their role is purely administrative and mainly just a register, be that members or rings.