Tony C

rather ewe than me. Have already been stuffed today

I believe he's doing what any good Englishman should be doing............. tending to the Daffodils

lol Andy if you beat us by 8 points or more I'll need some indigestion tablets as well

I had a few old birds with spongy crops a few years back and as walterboswell59 states y/b/s can be caught by old birds. The symptoms are slightly different to that of young birds, the main difference is old birds dont spew up. I cleared it up by giving them a Harkers Spartican tablet each which made them chuck up the contents of their crop. I notice Harkers have taken Spartican of the market so an alternative would be soda crystals popped down their throats.

Is going to do he's bit for Comic Relief by wearing a white nose for the day.

Thank you.

If you could do that on the http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/forum/123-west-essex-federation-and-club-results/ thread that would be great.

Info for 2013 Club Secretary.pdf

If kept one could always refer back to them plus they'd be there for new members to take a butchers at if they so wish.

Is there any way that the 2012 results can be collated and put into a sub category within the club/feds result? If not perhaps lock all 2012 results so they remain at the bottom of the thread. Am just thinking of a way to keep them in chronological order, cheers.

:lol:

Just put the rubbish out, its the warmest its been all day!

Have they got any deals on Bovril

Have run a few b/buyer sales and more times than not have found the early lots go a tad cheaper than the rest

Tis no fun Andy and thats for sure. Think its about time Feds started looking seriously into starting a month later, the weather seasons are a changing.

Monthly Outlook Summary Winter's back, but for how long? Last week some places enjoyed spring-like warmth, but we were looking at a gradual cooling for this coming week. However, things have cooled off rather more quickly than initially expected, so much so that we have already been plunged back into mid-winter type conditions. Temperatures are now barely above freezing, and snow is affecting many places, accompanied by a bitter northeasterly wind. The cold is set in for a while, although it should hopefully become a little less bitter by the end of this week. Monday 11 March—Sunday 17 March A cold and wintry week to come This coming week will feel more like mid-January than mid-March. Snow is likely to affect many of us at first, although most of the snow will tend to be in eastern and southern parts of the UK. Frost and ice will also affect most if not all parts, and the cold will be accentuated by a bitter northeasterly wind. As the week progresses, the winds will ease as they back northerly then westerly or southwesterly, which will at least make it feel less cold. We should all see some brightness or sunshine at times this week, and as the winds back we should see fewer in the way of snow showers. However, we are likely to see cloud increase towards northwestern parts of the UK later in the week, which will bring some showers or more persistent rain, this no doubt preceded by some snow over parts of Scotland and England. Temperatures will be several degrees below the mid-March average. Initially, daytime highs will be barely above freezing, but by the end of the week we should see some recovery in temperatures, although overnight frost and ice is still expected towards the southeast. Monday 18 March—Sunday 24 March Rather unsettled and less cold As we head through the equinox, it looks like the weather will stay on the cool and unsettled side, with further spells of rain and wind at times. Rain is likely to be preceded by some snow, more especially in northern and eastern parts of the UK. There will be some sunshine too, and out of the wind it will feel quite pleasant. Although it will be a less cold week, temperatures by day and by night will remain below average, with single figure highs generally expected. Nights will still be rather cold, with frost and ice likely at times. Monday 25 March—Sunday 7 April Cool and unsettled conditions to continue A new month approaches, but there doesn't look like being too much change in the weather. Spring still looks like being put on hold. Most areas are likely to be a little colder than average during the remainder of March and start of April. It will probably be rather unsettled for much of the time, especially towards the south and west, with low pressure generally dominating the weather across the UK but centred just to the west or south of the UK. Next week Winter has renewed its grip on the UK, but can spring fight back after the equinox? Monthly forecasting The weather beyond about a week ahead stretches even the most experienced weather forecaster. Complex numerical weather forecast models from the Met Office and the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF) are run many times for the month (and season) ahead to build up a picture of the likelihood of different weather types affecting the UK. Next update at 10:00, Monday 18 March

Sub zero here, snow beginning to settle.

Think it came straight out of the Politicians handbook 'How To Lie With Statistics'

Yep! some old nuggets to be found using the search facility.

Wrong!

Is it possible that you can win every race but not win the averages?................... Below is an old topic on this very question, it gets interesting on page two http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/topic/33501-can-u-work-this-out/page__hl__%20velocity__st__20

The West Essex Fed will be liberating out of Huntingdon (weather permitting) on these dates 27th July 3rd August

WEST ESSEX RACE PROGRAMME FOR 2013 OLD BIRDS 13th April Peterborough 20th April Newark 27th April Retford 4th May Wetherby (Amal) 11th May Ripon (Amal) 18th May Wetherby 25th May Newark 1st June Berwick (LNRC) 8th June Retford 15th June Wetherby (Amal) 22nd June Arbroath (LNRC) 29th June Ripon (Amal) 6th July Newark 12th July Thurso (LNRC) YOUNG BIRDS 27th July Huntingdon 3rd Aug Huntingdon 10th Aug Peterborough 17th Aug Newark 24th Aug Retford 31st Aug Wetherby (Amal) 7th Sept Ripon 14th Sept Newark 21st Sept Aycliffe (LNRC)

I guess not many answers as its hard to explain. I look for a combination of things, exercise is the obvious thing to start with. After a couple of weeks being let out AM & PM they should start to exercise with a bit of zip about them, racing eachother across the skies. If they're whizzing around low in the sky in small circles they're not ready. When you handle them they'll not feel overweight, their eyes are all seeing and they blink so fast its just noticable. In the loft watch them fly up to their box, one or two claps of their wings should take them to the highest box, after time you'll be able to hear if they're taking off is laboured or not. Training them for me is no big thing, I've put them into the first race (72mile) with just one 6 mile toss under their belts. Idealy I would like one from 6 mile, one from 15mile & a 30 miler to finish with.