Skull Lofts

You are 100% right at that! When your birds are ranging for an hour or more, they go further than 10miles from home, so whats the use of taking them on shorter tosses? I usually start at 20miles first tos. The trick is to basket them when they finish flying around the loft the morning you want to tos them. Skull

Hi all Just for clarification, the Cocks and Hens are in separate lofts next to each other but they use the same trap to enter into a passage in front of their lofts. My aim is to keep them separated when loft flying, but liberate them together when road training starts. Doing this they can mingle with each other until I get home whereby I separate them again before I water and feed them. On Saturdays, day of return from the races, and Sundays, day after the races, I want to keep them mixed and only separate them Sunday afternoon before feeding time so that both sexes get fed in their own lofts again. My aim being to get them to race home to be able to mix with the opposite sex when entering the loft. What’s your thoughts on this system? Skull

Hi Verry interesting! My birds have been on Bleach since Desember 2009, 24/5, the other 2 days i would give Vits, being B12 or Electrolytes. They are in good nick and i never give any Flora supplements! The Bleach i use is 3% Sodium Hypochlorite and i give it at 3ml to 1L of unpurified tapwater. The container says that its 99.9% efective against all known germs, so 0.1% stil survives, the same as with any Antibiotic which even dont kill all the germs. This to me says that not all the beneficial germs(Bacteria) could either be killed by the use of it! The stronger ones survives with the stronger bad ones, so the battle goes on between the good and the bad no matter what you try to do. IMO this is where immunity starts, which of the germs, GOOD or BAD will succeed. Skull

Looks to me as if the dirty egg is from a previous lay, never hatched and now a second egg has been layed next to it from the newest lay? Skull

I was told that it takes care of external parasites to. Any truth in this? Skull

Hi The birds must have a keen smelling systom, as when they are paired up the cock is able to distinguish his hen from all the other birds when its even impossible for the fancier to do so, especially when theres a few sisters in the loft which all looks the same! IMO this could only be done by him smelling his mate! Skull

100% right! Skull

Hi all Do anyone know about this, is it a concern in the UK? Skull

Hi all Something interesting! IMO THE IMMUNITY SYSTEM, for bird owners This is a very simplified attempt to explain the broader aspects of immunity to pet and bird owners. Immunity is a medical term that describes a state of having adequate defences to avoid infection or disease or other unwanted biological invasion. When an antigen (a protein molecule that forms part of a pathogen) enters the body, an immune reaction is triggered. A pathogen is a micro-organism such as a bacterium or a virus that is capable of causing disease. In the body the reaction to the antigen takes place in the myeloid tissue contained in bone marrow and in the lymphoid tissues such as the thymus, the lymph nodes, and the spleen. In birds the bursa of Fabricius is a particularly important organ in the immune system. It is in the bone marrow that a range of white blood cells are manufactured. These include several different types of phagocytes (literally meaning “eating cellsâ€) amongst which are the macrophages. These are large white blood cells circulating throughout the body in the bloodstream that act as the scavengers of the body. In an immune reaction, one of their functions is to gobble up the invading pathogen – one single macrophage is capable of destroying 100 bacteria! The body also produces a range of protein molecules called antibodies (immunoglobulins) that will specifically react with the pathogens to destroy them. The circulating macrophages, together with other types of white blood cells and the immunoglobulins form part of the humoral immunity – immunity in the blood stream. By measuring the levels of immunoglobulins, the level of this type of immunity can be gauged. The immune reaction that takes place in the lymphoid tissues produces a variety of special cells, some of which are responsible for the second type of immunity called local or cell-mediated immunity. An example of this type of immunity is where after having recovered from a cold, a person’s nasal tract and throat would have local immunity to the specific virus that originally caused the cold. There is no way to measure this type of cell-mediated immunity but it remains an important component of the body’s overall immune reaction. HOW CAN OUR KNOWLEDGE OF IMMUNITY BE USED TO OUR ADVANTAGE? In order to protect ourselves, our pets and our birds from infections, an understanding of the different types of immunity allows us to take appropriate action, depending on the circumstances of the threat. IMMUNITY PASSIVE ACTIVE NATURAL AMNIOTIC FLUID (birds) (Placenta in mammals) AMNIOTIC FLUID IN BIRDS INNATE ARTIFICIAL EGG YOLK (COLOSTRUM in mammals) EGG YOLK IN BIRDS HUMORAL CELL-MEDIATED NATURAL ARTIFICIAL PASSIVE IMMUNITY Innate immunity is a natural immunity to pathogens that normally affect other species. For example, neither cats, nor humans nor pigeons contract canine distemper. In mammals, natural passive immunity is found in newborn youngsters. It is short-lived (a few weeks at best) and can be acquired either through the placenta whilst the foetus is still in the mother’s uterus, or more importantly, through the colostrum. Colostrum is the thick, antibody rich milk that a mother produces in the first 24 hours after giving birth. In order to protect a newly born youngster against the myriad infections to which it will be exposed, it is vital that the puppy or kitten drink as much colostrum as possible during these first 24 hours. After that the newborn’s digestive system will start to break down the antibodies contained in the mother’s milk, thus losing the benefit of being able to absorb the whole antibody as it would have done in the first 24 hours. This type of maternally derived immunity will usually only last for about 8 to 12 weeks. By this time the youngster’s developing immune system will be able to manufacture its own antibodies to specific infections (or vaccine antigens). In birds, natural passive immunity is acquired from swallowing the antibody-rich amniotic fluid during the hatching process and by absorption of the anti-body rich egg yolk after hatching. Maternal immunity in birds lasts up to ten days. The bird’s bursa of Fabricius becomes the most important organ for the first 6 weeks of a bird’s life. Thereafter the bursa shrinks in size and the other lymphoid tissues take over the role of manufacturing the cells that defend the body from unwanted infections. Artificial passive immunity occurs when antibodies are injected into the animal or bird because they are required immediately. Examples of this would be the use of an anti-tetanus injection following a deep wound, or the injection of anti-snake bite serum into a patient following a snake bite. ACTIVE IMMUNITY – it generally takes about two weeks for the body to develop active immunity. This is why for example it takes about two weeks to get over a cold. The cold goes away because the immunity built up to the cold-causing virus eventually removes the offending virus from the body. Natural active immunity occurs where infection with a natural disease has stimulated the body to build up an immunity to the disease. An example here would be a child that has had measles. The attack of measles goes away because of the immunity that has been built up during the course of the disease. Following recovery, the child will be protected from further attacks of measles because of the immunity that the body has developed. In this particular case the immunity will be life-long. Artificial active immunity develops after a vaccine has been administered. The immune system develops an immunity to the specific antigen contained in the vaccine, thus protecting the patient from infection against the natural disease. This type of immunity is seldom life long but will usually protect the patient for quite a long period of time, perhaps for a year or two. Booster vaccinations from time to time increase the gradually declining level of immunity, making it possible to protect an animal throughout its life. PRACTICAL EXAMPLE OF OUR ABILITY TO USE THE ABOVE KNOWLEDGE TO GOOD ADVANTAGE Certain toxins such as those produced by tetanus bacteria stimulate an immune reaction. However, because the speed with which the toxin will kill a patient (within a couple of days) suffering or potentially suffering from tetanus, urgent treatment in the form of tetanus antitoxin (artificial passive immunity) is required. There is no time (remember it takes 2 weeks) for the body to develop its own antibodies. A better approach is to vaccinate (artificial active immunity) people or animals at risk with a tetanus vaccine so that the body already has its own supply of antibodies in the event of infection by tetanus bacteria. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE IMMUNE SYSTEM GOES WRONG? There can be many causes of immunodeficiency. Anything that can affect the body’s immune reaction at any point along the immune response chain can lead to immunodeficiency. For example, in certain types of leukemia, the bone marrow is affected with the consequence that no white blood cells, including the macrophages, are manufactured as part of the immune response. This is an example of where a bone marrow transplant might help by replacing the affected bone marrow with healthy bone marrow tissue. Infections like HIV (human immunodeficiency virus) attack the lymphoid tissues and some of the special cells normally involved in the immune reaction, thus decimating the body’s normal defense mechanisms. This destroys the body’s ability to develop immunity to other infections such as tuberculosis. AIDS patients usually die from these other infections, not from the HIV virus. In poultry, infectious bursal disease virus infects the bursa thus destroying the bursa’s ability to manufacture B (bursal produced) lymphocytes which play a vital role in the bird’s humoral immune system. This opens the way for all sorts of other infections like Newcastle disease. Allergies are also part of the immune reaction of the body. Allergens such as the proteins contained in beestings stimulate the same sort of immune reaction in the body as the antigens discussed above. In the case of allergies, the body becomes over sensitive to the allergen, leading to potentially severe allergic reactions should the body be exposed to that particular antigen again. This article has briefly touched on some of the aspects of the complicated subject of immunity. We hope that it has been of interest Skull

Even their FOOD? LOL Skull

Hi Why is there some beans scattered on the floor? Skull

Thanks, but i am unable to open this link? Skull

What you say is that the hens done ya good ? Skull

Could you give a link to the previous post? Thanks! Skull

Why didnt you work? Skull

Hi all Has any one tried ROUNABOUT the other way around? What i try to say is that the hens are in the loft with the nest boxes and the cocks in the loft without the nest boxes? Skull

What should you do when they beat you on the 1st training flight? Skull

Hi all Do our birds feel a bit OFF when they are in the moult? Skull

Hi all This morning i took them to the same spot again. They made it home in 22min. They flew 11min. quicker than yesterday! Skull

Unfortunately we dont race youngbird races. These babys wil be raced as youngbirds in our oldbird season up to 700km. Skull

They were weened 16 December 2009.

Hi all This morning i tossed my babys for the 1st time. I took them 18km from the loft, GPS measured and it took them 33min to get home. They all came together in 1 pack. Skull

Sound advice! Only problem with point 1 is that here in South Africa they cant be trusted, as you are competition, which is fierce! 1.I would rather say the best flyer who you wont compete against in another area. 2.Try and keep young birds of the same age in one loft. Skull

How?

Maybe a change in the feed? Breeding stress? Skull