my wife and daughter,mother and young brother will all train the birds if they are going away in the car,my brother is very good as he is a site manager (i think,building game anyway) and works around the country on new houses and we have had some great training over the years,the doos are down to me and dad although dad has been retired for some time and works hard at the doos,mum keeps us going during the nationals making sure we are eating well. :lol: ps during the national races my wife says she will wake we up for work on monday morning as i am at the doos all weekend. :D