well i have 2 teams of 30 the 1st team i have trained upto 20 miles the 2nd team are ranging about 2 hrs. i had a plan at the start of season to send the 1st team to the 1st 4 races then stop them the 2nd team will compete in the next four races, as thats what our race program enables me todo, so far every thing is going to plan, losses are 6 off the shed and so far none training. as for the moon and sun in the skyb together well yesterday they had there 1st toss from 20 miles and beat me home, today they went again and came back over a 2 hour period all split up so i think there is somethingin it